Blessed be the peacemakers, Marek. I'll post more tomorrow. But for now, blessed be Marek and your intention to understand all P'sOV.
Jim, I wasn't trying to bust your balls. You and I have had more cool discussions than otherwise. My point about beliefs was not a personal attack on you. We may see things differently, but I always get that you are genuine and a person I could enjoy a burger an well concocted Margarita with. --- In [email protected], "Marek Reavis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jim, you're correct. I'm pretty confident, too, that no one here > thinks that you hold the belief that anyone who feels differently than > you regarding Guru Dev's and Maharishi's influence on global > consciousness is somehow doomed. But at the same time, I do think > that you post condescendingly at times and do characterize Barry and > Curtis particularly as 'lessers' that just don't get what it is that > you know to be true. That's got to chap the hide. > > But it's a 'give as good as you get' type of place here, you know that > as well as I do, and some folks are more argumentative than > diplomatic; points made are often barbed, sometimes they overshoot the > mark, feelings get hurt and the cycle starts up again. But it always > seems to settle down after awhile. > > I'm stoked that you have this great thing with Guru Dev; so totally > fine in my books and a delight to hear about and admire. I don't > personally have any problems with the position you hold, either; only, > sometimes it sounds like it's being delivered from on high, that's > all. At least that's what I feel. > > Jai Guru Dev > > Marek > > ** > > --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "Marek Reavis" <reavismarek@> > > wrote: > > Jim's experiences seem genuine > > > enough as he relates them, but the extrapolation of his experiences > > > to the belief that Guru Dev and Maharishi represent a unique > > juncture > > > in the world and human affairs is, however sincere, unveriafiable > > and > > > tantamount to similar sectarian beliefs of Christianity or any other > > > religion. > > > > With one significant and important difference that some on FFL cannot > > seem to grasp: When certain sectarian beliefs of Christianity proclaim > > that we can only be saved through acceptance of Jesus Christ as the > > Saviour, there is an unmistakable implication that those that don't > > are somehow less, or doomed. > > > > All I said was that Guru Dev and Maharishi are the catalysts for the > > spiritual regeneration of the world. Period. Unverifiable by each and > > every one of those reading this? Sure. Similar to whether the earth > > revolves around the sun, or the sun revolves around the earth. Also > > unverifiable. > > > > However the thing that is quite different between what I said and its > > comparison to the beliefs of Christian sects is that there is > > absolutely no implication or assertion I have made that anyone who > > doesn't believe this is wrong, or a lesser person, or doomed > > spiritually or otherwise. > > > > It is a significant difference, and yet several on this forum cannot > > decouple this possibility that Guru Dev and Maharishi have brought > > about the spiritual regeneration of the world, from some implication > > that lack of belief in this possibility means that I think they are > > lesser beings in some regard. > > > > Marek, you as a lawyer must surely see the logical inconsistency in > > these few posters' assertion? > > > > I consider this inability to decouple what I said from the stories > > they hold in their heads and hearts as neurotic- in other words, not > > fully in touch with the here and now. Why should that be made to > > appear as anyone else's problem except theirs? It sure ain't mine.:- > > ) > > >
