--- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "do.rflex" <do.rflex@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" <shempmcgurk@> > > wrote: > > > > > > do.rflex: > > > > > > Whatever you have reproduced here does NOT back up your claim > that > > > Bush "over and over and over again" tried to tie Saddam to 9/11. > > > > > > Show us evidence of THAT instead of distracting us with pap. > > > > > > My God, man, those are direct quotes from Bush during the lead up to > > the Iraq war! Are you blind?!? Or are you purposely being obtuse? > > > Okay, Sweetheart, let's take a look at them (see comments below > following each quote)
[snip] > > > > > > > > Well, let's have a look: > > > > > > > > > > > > Edited on Sun Aug-27-06 12:21 PM by EarlG > > > > Bush knew no Iraq link pre-9/11: report > > > > > > > > US President George W Bush was informed 10 days after the > September > > > > 11, 2001 attacks that US intelligence had no proof of links > between > > > > Iraq and this act of terror, The National Journal reported > today. > > > > > > > > Citing government documents as well as past and present Bush > > > > administration officials, the magazine said the president was > > > briefed > > > > on September 21, 2001 that evidence of cooperation between Iraq > and > > > > the al-Qaeda terrorist network was insufficient. > > > > > > > > Bush was also informed that there was some credible information > > > about > > > > contacts between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda that showed that > the > > > > Iraqi dictator had tried to establish surveillance over the > group, > > > > according to the report. > > > > > > > > Saddam Hussein believed the radical Islamic network represented > a > > > > threat for his secular regime... > > > > > > > > http://smh.com.au/news/world/bush-knew-no-iraq-link-pre... > > > > > > > > > > > > George W. Bush > > > > > > > > 2002 > > > > > > > > "The regime has longstanding and continuing ties to terrorist > > > groups, > > > > and there are Al Qaida terrorists inside Iraq." - George W. Bush > > > > Delivers Weekly Radio Address, White House (9/28/2002) - > > > BushOnIraq.com > > > > > > > He said as a separate part of the first sentence that there were Al > Qaida terrorist inside Iraq. Where is he tying them to Saddam? > Iraq's a big country and during Saddam's time had many factions in > many parts of the country that Saddam didn't control. > > No tying here. Tying is clearly implied. > > > > "We know that Iraq and al Qaeda have had high-level contacts > that go > > > > back a decade. Some al Qaeda leaders who fled Afghanistan went > to > > > > Iraq. These include one very senior al Qaeda leader who received > > > > medical treatment in Baghdad this year, and who has been > associated > > > > with planning for chemical and biological attacks. We've > learned > > > that > > > > Iraq has trained al Qaeda members in bomb-making and poisons and > > > > deadly gases." - President Bush Outlines Iraqi Threat; Remarks > by > > > the > > > > President on Iraq, White House (10/7/2002) - Whitehouse.gov > > > > > So? Is this not true? It's not true. > > You do know, don't you, that Saddam killed thousands with poison gas? Yeah. And he got the gas warfare components from the USA. > > > > "I think they're both equally important, and they're both > dangerous. > > > > And as I said in my speech in Cincinnati, we will fight if need > be > > > the > > > > war on terror on two fronts. We've got plenty of capacity to do > so. > > > > And I also mentioned the fact that there is a connection > between al > > > > Qaeda and Saddam Hussein. The war on terror, Iraq is a part on > the > > > war > > > > on terror. And he must disarm." - President Condems Attack in > Bali, > > > > White House (10/14/2002) - Whitehouse.gov > > > > > "...a connection". Ooh, Bush is REALLY going out on a limb and tying Al Qaida to Saddam there. Bush falsely claimed a connection. > > > > "This is a man who has got connections with Al Qaida. Imagine a > > > > terrorist network with Iraq as an arsenal and as a training > ground, > > > so > > > > that a Saddam Hussein could use this shadowy group of people to > > > attack > > > > his enemy and leave no fingerprint behind. He's a threat." - > Remarks > > > > by the President in Texas Welcome, White House (11/4/2002) - > > > > Whitehouse.gov > > > > > > No tying there. Read the first sentence again, Bozo. > > > > "He's a threat because he is dealing with Al Qaida. In my > Cincinnati > > > > speech I reminded the American people, a true threat facing our > > > > country is that an Al Qaida-type network trained and armed by > Saddam > > > > could attack America and leave not one fingerprint." - President > > > > Outlines Priorities, White House (11/7/2002) - BushOnIraq.gov > > > > > > Hypothetically speaking. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "He's had contacts with Al Qaida. Imagine the scenario where an > Al > > > > Qaida-type organization uses Iraq as an arsenal, a place to get > > > > weapons, a place to be trained to use the weapons. Saddam > Hussein > > > > could use surrogates to come and attack people he hates." - > Remarks > > > by > > > > the President at Arkansas Welcome, White House (11/4/2002) - > > > > BushOnIraq.com > > > > > > > You're repeating the same quote here from the same day. That's not > what I would call showing me where Bush claimed it "over and over and > over again". > > Nice try. An error from the website. There *many more* Bush AND Cheney statements below. > > > > 2003 > > > > > > > > "Evidence from intelligence sources, secret communications, and > > > > statements by people now in custody reveal that Saddam Hussein > aids > > > > and protects terrorists, including members of al Qaeda. > Secretly, > > > and > > > > without fingerprints, he could provide one of his hidden > weapons to > > > > terrorists, or help develop their own." - President > Delivers "State > > > of > > > > the Union", White House (1/28/2003) - Whitehouse.gov > > > > > > "including members of Al Qaida". Said as an afterthought. > > Not a ringing endorsement. > > Of course, it turned out to be true so, if anything, Bush didn't hype > the connection enough! No. It was false. > > > > "Before September the 11th, many in the world believed that > Saddam > > > > Hussein could be contained. But chemical agents, lethal > viruses, and > > > > shadowy terrorist networks are not easily contained. Imagine > those > > > 19 > > > > hijackers with other weapons and other planes -- this time > armed by > > > > Saddam Hussein. It would take one vial, one canister, one crate > > > > slipped into this country to bring a day of horror like none we > have > > > > ever known." - President Delivers "State of the Union", White > House > > > > (1/28/2003) - Whitehouse.gov > > > > > > Again, he uses the word "imagine". No tying Al Qaida to Saddam...he's using a hypothetical. Your being obtuse. > > > > "Saddam Hussein has longstanding, direct and continuing ties to > > > > terrorist networks. Senior members of Iraqi intelligence and al > > > Qaeda > > > > have met at least eight times since the early 1990s. Iraq has > sent > > > > bomb-making and document forgery experts to work with al Qaeda. > Iraq > > > > has also provided al Qaeda with chemical and biological weapons > > > > training. We also know that Iraq is harboring a terrorist > network, > > > > headed by a senior al Qaeda terrorist planner." - President > Bush: > > > > "World Can Rise to This Moment", White House (2/6/2003) - > > > Whitehouse.gov > > > > > > Oooh. Eight times. > > By the way, is it true? No, it isn't true. > I'm stopping here because I see below you're repeating again. You can't credibly deny that Bush & Cheney publicly pushed the idea and claimed a connection between Saddam and Al Qaeda. [snipped further massive evidence that BushCo publicly made false statements that connected Saddam to Al Qaeda and therefore 9/11]
