--- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > The real problem with people claiming self evident truth is that > > > people don't come up with the same ones. > > > > Right, because there is only one self evident truth. > > That infidels must die to protect God's true teaching, right? > > The others are > > mirasges built out of a lack of complete integration with the body. > > There are at least 78 different beliefs that must be in place to > support this statement. This doesn't mean it is wrong, it means it is > not a simple statement. (the number 78 represents "lots") > > The next paragraph seems to use proof by analogy. It redefines > "truth" in a way that is inconsistent with my understanding of its > meaning. You are applying cognitive functions to unconscious > processes, but this seems to be more than an analogy for you? > > We are not thinking of the meaning of the word "truth" the same way. > What you seem to be using the word for is what I would term > "philosophical perspective supported by mystical subjective experiences". > > I have never doubted the compelling nature of your subjective > experiences Jim. I am of the "party on Garth" school when it comes to > other people's experience. I had enough of my own to know that you > probably aren't making it up which is a rude assumption of some > skeptics. I am only drawing my own lines on what I belief that it > means. This is where we go in different directions. However your > right to view your own experiences your own way and draw your own > conclusions about life from them is not being questioned by me. But > because I have my own experience and conclusions in place I am not apt > to grant you superior insight status on life because of what you > experience. On the "ultimate questions insight score" I treat us as > exact equals. I feel the same way about MMY. > > Nice to have some friendly chats with you again Jim. Our differences > are an asset. > I agree- what a boring world if everyone thought exactly the same stuff.
Regarding truth as evidenced in the body, what I am doing is drawing a direct connection between complete integration of the mind and body-- far less common than we think ;-)-- and the resulting state of consciousness, which actually transcends any individuality. Once the integration between mind and body is completed, it is as if we disappear, and what takes over is just the way things are. We no longer see our truth- we see the truth, or absolute clarity. A drop of water into the ocean and all that. Having said that, I can read your explanations of the way you see things and how it all levels out for you, regardless of who is claiming Divine status, all day long. It makes sense and it sounds real, and I like that as much as you do.:-)
