I can only comment on what I have done which it TM and now something else. When I got the new thing, hardly any instruction was needed because of my TM background. It seems like the technique is so engrained that it can never be flushed out, and probably one would not want it to be.
Lately I have been hearing people reporting existence which indicate enlightenment (at least the way they describe what is taking place), and they have never done TM. Most of the one's that claimed it, it doesn;t look like it holds water, but for a few, it could be, we shall see --- In [email protected], "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Bhairitu wrote: > > Most meditative practices will lower stress. > > > Do you know of any meditative practices that provide > the opportunity for transcending? Most of the TMers > I know all cite for a reason that they took to TM > practice is because it worked so well and was so easy > to learn. They all reported that effortlessly being > able to transcend was the main reason they enjoyed > the program. I've tried several different techniques > over the years and listened to several different > teachers explain their system, but almost everyone > of them involved concentration of one kind or another. > It's very difficult to transcend when you're striving > to concentrate, almost counter-productive. I'm not > understanding how concentrating on the tip of your nose > would provide an opportunity for the transcending. > According to Soto Zen philosophy, the mere idea of > becoming enlightened is enough to prevent an effortless > transcending. Dogen Kigen used to teach that 'just > sitting' IS the enlightened state. So, what I'm asking > you, again, is who these teachers are who teach an > effortless transcending. The ones I know about are > the Deepackage, the Sri Sri, and maybe Bio-sound Bill. > You haven't cited a single teacher or a single technique > that can compare to TM as a relaxation technique. >
