--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "claudiouk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> There is a loss of "experience" when one slips into sleep - if 
during 
> this time there is transcendental consciousness there is no 
> recollection of it. In meditation the loss and recovery of 
experience 
> happens during a shorter period and one becomes aware of this 
change 
> or gap. But interestingly the sense of self or wakefulness during 
TM 
> is not lost, as in sleep. That, and a sense of finer quality of 
> thinking and breathing (one rare occasions amazingly fine), has 
> featured in my "subtler" experiences during TM. Hard to see how 
these 
> experiences wouldn't be overshadowed by grosser awareness, as in 
CC 
> though. Another important consequence of "experiencing" finer 
values 
> within the mind is a great boost in general positivity in oneself 
and 
> the world - a new glow, somehow. But actually most of the time 
during 
> TM it's a struggle, paradoxically, to remain effortless in the 
> process because even the faintest preocupation with "thinking" a 
> mantra eventually creates tension and headaches - a very 
discouraging 
> effect. Yet not "thinking" a mantra seems counter the 
instructions. I 
> end up having to re-invent the process of meditation anew each 
time 
> as nothing seems to "work" effortlessly more than a few times in a 
> row. Have tried countless "checks" to no avail. Have tried your 
> approach of accepting the mantra as just very "abstract" but often 
> doubts creep in that I'm not doing "TM" after all!! Also can't see 
> how further advanced techniques can help as the pronounciation of 
the 
> mantra has just gone now and any attempt to retrieve it, however 
> gentle, ends up in headaches. If I weren't hooked on MMY's Gita 
> philosophy I'd given up ages ago!!
> 
Meditate without thinking the mantra, and see what happens. Sounds 
like there is some resistance in your meditation that needs to be 
cleared, and that you are short-circuiting the process by forcing in 
the mantra. Try it without the mantra, just thinking and looking 
around mentally. Your mantra isn't going anywhere so don't be 
concerned about losing it. When the mental stuff is resolved, you 
can go back on it easily.:-)

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