--great quotes, I love them! 
 In spite of the hoaky-looking bots in Transformers, it's an 
excellent movie, IMO.  The various good vs evil themes in the movie 
seem to parallel in a round about way, Fundie theology:  we're the 
good guys, they're the evil dudes.  Kill them, and they're going to 
Hell. (the evil Deceptrons invading the earth were destroyed and 
their bodies dropped into a deep oceanic trench).


- In [email protected], off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> I think he is being sarcastic, and had a low-level understanding of 
> the point of my post. 
> 
> OffWorld
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], "John" <jr_esq@> wrote:
> >
> > Your quotations are a bit unfamiliar for us.  Where did you get 
> these 
> > tidbits?
> > 
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], Jason Spock <jedi_spock@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >  
> > >    
> > >       Yes, you could be Correct.
> > >    
> > >       Jesus said, "Thou shall kill for me."
> > >    
> > >       Jesus also said, " Whoever kills and murders innocents 
> will 
> > sit with me and my father in heaven and have eternal life."
> > >    
> > >        Jesus also said, " You can do no wrong, so don't ask for 
> > forgiveness."
> > > 
> > > off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >   Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 21:45:56 -0000
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jesus Camp
> > > 
> > >    
> > >   Er...hundreds of thousands killed, maimed, or displaced by an 
> > > arrogant Christian fundamentalist regime (Bush, Ashcroft, Rice, 
> > > Rove, and others). Are you that anive that you don't realise 
> that 
> > > the fanaticism that fuels the Christian "taliban" is the same 
> > > fanaticicism and arrogance that caused GW Bush to say he 
> follows "a 
> > > Higher Father", and he, by believed he therefore cannot do 
> wrong. 
> > > This is the EXACT philosophy of the Born-Again Christians, and 
> they 
> > > believe they are superior and you are going to Hell. This is 
> what 
> > > Bush believed. You are inferior to him and his buddies. 
> > > American Christians have been getting high tech machines to 
> murder 
> > > people by the hundreds of thousands, and the government was 
> > DIRECTLY 
> > > supported by them in large numbers. The Muslim fanatics manage 
> to 
> > > kill with suicide bombs and some lucky chances on 9/11. 
> > > 
> > > There is no difference between the two. The only difference is 
> that 
> > > you think the Iraq war was caused by political forces. It was 
> not. 
> > > It was fueled by fundamentalist fanaticism in the US and even 
in 
> > the 
> > > US military, and the result is a quagmire you cannot get out 
of. 
> No 
> > > way out. No way to stay much longer either. No choices left for 
> > you. 
> > > You are stuck there in a quagmire mess for many, many decades. 
> You 
> > > are naive if you think you can get out. Even if you get out for 
> a 
> > > short time, you will end up having to go back in in much larger 
> > > numbers and with much greater casualties not long after. 
> > > 
> > > Fundamentalist Christian arrogance caused this quagmire, and 
> > > fundamentalist Muslim arrogance is just as bad, only much less 
> big 
> > > guns and fighter jets. All of this Bush administrations 
ignorant 
> > > mess was CAUSED DIRECTLY by the arrogance of a religious group 
> who 
> > > states that it follows God, therefore cannot do wrong. The 
other 
> > > side is the satanic one. Both Muslim and Christian fundies are 
> the 
> > > same. You are incredibly naive to think that American 
> > > fundamentalists do not kill for religion. Even some top 
> positions 
> > in 
> > > this administration were filled by inexperienced people who 
> > > graduated from that fat preachers 'university' /madras, and 
they 
> > were 
> > > all gung-ho to kill for Jesus. This administration believed 
they 
> > > were the righteous saints, and now this quagmire you will not 
> get 
> > > out of and it is going to eat away at your national pride, 
> national 
> > > moral, and national budget in increasing clarity. 
> > > 
> > > I am not being a doomsayer, just saying what I and many others 
> > > predicted would happen as a result of this ignorant action. 
Sure 
> > > something had to be done about Saddam, but this was a massive 
> and 
> > > unprecedented strategic mistake and a blunder of historic 
> > > proportions and the wrong way to go about it.
> > > 
> > > Fortunately Jesus Camp is a bit dated now, and Ted Haggard who 
> > stars 
> > > in it as an arrogant, self-agrandizing, christian fanatic, is 
> outed 
> > > as a drug toking, anus fucking, prostitute using, fake, and 
many 
> > > other Christians are turning away from the fanatic arrogance 
> that 
> > > fueled the Neocons Talibanesque onslaught on civilization, and 
> are 
> > > turning to a more humble form of their religion. Bush is 
> > practically 
> > > the most disgraced president of all time, and the US will have 
> VERY 
> > > a hard time recovering from the mess into which it has dug 
> itself.
> > > 
> > > Quagmire mess, soldiers returning home psychologically shaken, 
> > > desertions fast on the rise, moral declining. Well done 
> BushSheep. 
> > > What an ubelievable mess. You will see prices rising across the 
> > > board, and your income decreasing as a result of this. 
> > > 
> > > (I'll be alright though, I got Euros ;-)
> > > 
> > > OffWorld
> > >    
> > >    
> > > 
> > >        
> > > ---------------------------------
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> > > Check out fun summer activities for kids.
> > >
> >
>


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