In a message dated 7/13/07 12:56:24 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

If "all  men by nature are equally free and independent,If "all  m
be  considered as retaining an "equal right to free exercise of
religion,  according to dictates of conscience." While we assert for
ourselves a  freedom to embrace, to profess, and to observe, the
religion which we  believe to be of divine origin, we cannot deny an
equal freedom to those  whose minds have not yet yielded to the
evidence which has convinced  us...

Experience witnesseth that ecclesiastical establishments, instead  of
maintaining the purity and efficacy of religion, have had  contrary
operation. During almost fifteen centuries has the legal  establishment
of Christianity been on trial. What have been its fruits?  More or
less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy, ignorance  and
servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry, and  persecution.se

What influences, in fact, have ecclesiastical  establishments had on
civil society? In some instances they have been seen  to erect a
spiritual tyranny on the ruins of civil authority; in many  instances
they have been seen upholding the thrones of political tyranny;  in no
instance have they been seen the guardians of liberties of the  people.
Rulers who wish to subvert the public liberty may have found  an
established clergy convenient auxiliaries. A just  government
instituted to secure and perpetuate it, needs them  not.

~~ James Madison




They key to this entire quote is in the second to the last sentence.  "Rulers 
who wish to subvert the public liberty may have found an established  clergy 
convenient axillaries." Exactly what Jefferson was describing to the  Baptists 
of Danbury. No state established religion or denomination but freedom  for 
all to practice any religion they choose. Which means the people can elect  
representatives to reflect their values and if they are Biblically based or  
based 
on the Koran or Gita or on secularism so be it. This is Democracy and it  
reflects the will of the people.



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