--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
><snip>
> I think that this is the most accurate and telling
> statement in your post, Ron, and the one that is 
> most relevant to Fairfield Life and the majority
> of posts here about spiritual "progress." It's
> about *personal experience*, which is valid, and 
> about *projection of that experience onto others*,
> which IMO is not.
> 
> On this forum we've had people say that because
> *they* went through a period of anger at some 
> spiritual teacher who disappointed them, everyone
> who criticizes a spiritual teacher is also feeling
> anger. <snip>

FWIW I still support my original premise: If we criticise another 
(particularly if the other isn't even present, and we're criticising 
them to a 3rd party), we generally *are* coming from a place of pain 
(hurt/anger), whether or not we are consciously aware of it at that 
moment. This is because we are "shoulding" all over them :-) -- 
expecting them to be other than they are, and judging them for not 
living up to our expectations of what they "should" be or do. All of 
this stems from the core belief and illusion that what we are 
criticising is outside of ourself -- a position that is fraught with 
addictive pain. Practicing a little Byron-Katiesque Inquiry will soon 
sober us up and show us otherwise :-)

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