--- In [email protected], "Ron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Note I am not being a parakeet when I tell you that my 
> experience is it is moving me faster to enlightenment. 
> Let me put it this way, I feel this very stronly. It is 
> giving experience of the things I hear are the signs of 
> what enlightenment is. 

With all due respect, and with the fervent hope that
you are correct, I think you're forgetting something,
Ron. Your *belief* that you are "moving faster to
enlightenment" is based on what you *have been told*.
Your *belief* that these things are the "signs of
what enlightenment is" are based on *what you have 
been told*.

You have made a decision to *believe* what you have
been told. That doesn't necessarily make it so.

I sincerely hope it is, and that you are making all
the progress that you feel you are, but from my point
of view you could be experiencing normal, everyday
bursts of energy that pretty much everyone on a 
spiritual path would be noticing if they had been
told to pay attention to them and "weight" them and
assign them value, and to *interpret* them as progress
towards enlightenment.

In a TM context, for example, these things would be
considered just another experience, and no weight
would be given to them. Same thing in many Buddhist
traditions. But in the path you've chosen, these
experiences have been described as special, as mean-
ingful. That makes you special and your experiences
meaningful. 

> I reported in using the term everything is falling away 
> before i noticed it to be a common term used because 
> this is something many in my path are experiencing.

And have been *told* that they "should* experience.
And have been *told* that having these experiences
makes them a little special, and indicates that they
are making rapid progress towards enlightenment. So
are they going to put a bit of emphasis on *having*
these experiences? Well, duh.

> Any opinion that disagrees with what I just said is like 
> one telling me that I am wrong about the ice cream tasting 
> sweet. 

No, it's merely reminding you that you were *told*
that the ice cream would taste sweet, and that ice
cream is the pathway to enlightenment. That doesn't
necessarily mean that eating ice cream would get you 
enlightened. It might just make you fat.  :-)

Here's a test for you. Is it *possible* that kundalini
experiences mean absolutely *nothing* about one's
proximity to enlightened states of mind, and that they
are Just Another Phenomenon, one that shouldn't be
"weighted" more than any other?

If you bristled at that idea, then I'd suggest that
what you've been told about kundalini and its importance
might have been aimed more at your ego than at freeing 
yourself from it.



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