---the people you mention - living in cages.  They should practice TM 
regularly and buy all the CD's & DVD's relating to Ramana Maharshi 
from http://www.arunachala.org
 What do you suggest....some type of mood-making to grok "I'm out of 
the cage, out of the cage, out of the cage....."? i.e. a 
reorientation of one's thinking to consider that "one" is not in the 
cage. But if the person still thought he was in the cage, could 
he/she get Enlightened anyway?

 In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" 
> > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> > <snip>
> > > I don't view the ego in the way you seem to be using it and
> > > losing my personality is not a goal for me.
> > 
> > As I understand it, enlightenment doesn't mean
> > "losing" one's personality, only the attachment
> > to and identification with it. The personality
> > remains as it was.
> >
> Almost exactly. The personality is much more enjoyable "in" 
> enlightenment because we can be precise with it, nothing hidden. 
And 
> all of its attributes are there, all shiny and available. We also 
> have full control of it-- not that we want to act phony, but rather 
> we can choose to be exactly the very best of ourselves, more 
> powerful, more fun, more everything. Jai Guru Dev. Om Shiva.
> 
> All it takes is giving up everything (lol), and it all comes back 
> ten-thousand fold (lol x 10,000). 
> 
> Its funny to see some here twisting themselves this way and that, 
> with elaborate explanations and such strident voices that keep them 
> from being free. Holding on to the bars of their cages as one 
poster 
> said about himself, so that they can continue the only life they 
> have ever known. What do you do about such people? What do you say 
> to them, when they are living such lives of frozen fear? Nothing 
> much to say, and just go on with life, seeing right through them. :-
)
>


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