--- In [email protected], "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> > The question is, "How is doing 'the work,' Byron Katie-
> > style, *not* fraught with addictive pain?" It seems to 
> > me that what Rory describes above is very much a form
> > of moodmaking -- starting with the assumption that one
> > *should* not be criticizing other aspects of ones Self
> > and acting accordingly, *in the pursuit of a desire*.
> 
> I am recommending that one be aware of where the criticism is coming 
> from -- that one place attention on the core expectations behind the 
> criticisms, and thereby to discover the illusory and projective 
> nature of one's thinking, and of one's pain. 

And this view would be consistent, IMU, of your answer to a question I
asked you some time ago, "Do you feel all perception and cognition (in
the mundane sense) are projection?" You answered affirmatively. 

I neither reject nor accept that premise (um, because I wouldn't want
to judge the premise :) -- but its fun to play with. In a 'serious
sense, and a jovial one. The latter first. 

Do some guys see (none here of course) see all tits as gorgeous and
can't stop staring at them because they think they themselves have
gorgeous tits? And they are simply projecting onto women? Or is it
that they see an seek motherly love and nourishment in everything.
Aka, needy.

Is nab projecting a personal need to get a (better) job when he
repeatedly tells Ron to do so. 

Is Barry a "pissant" becasue he sees other as pissants (back awhile)

Is Judy a liar because she sees others as liars?

Does Vaj see conspiracy, and evil intent in TM because he is evil and
conspiratoral inside? 

Do I see many things as funny, and laugh, when others do not -- is
that because I am a joke? Or just because I am funny (as in odd.)

More seriously, I ponder, how can we see anything but a projection of
our inner world? All perception and cognition (mundane) is through our
own set of deep conditioning, filters samskaras, whatever. We see what
we are.

Perhaps a point is that terms need to be clarified. "Where the
criticism is coming from" -- is all criticism -- in the broad sense of
evaluation, feedback, etc a bad thing?  Is it projection for a boss to
say "you could do even better, be more communicative and expressive of
your ideas". Is that simply that she herself sees herself as
uncommunicative and unexpressive of her ideas? or is she simply
providing some useful feedback? Thus, is negative (towards spiteful)
criticism projection but objective useful feedback -- based on skills
of objective evaluation?

Things to ponder. 


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