> --- In [email protected], "Rory Goff" <rorygoff@> wrote: > > I am recommending that one be aware of where the criticism is coming > > from -- that one place attention on the core expectations behind the > > criticisms, and thereby to discover the illusory and projective > > nature of one's thinking, and of one's pain.
--- In [email protected], new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > And this view would be consistent, IMU, of your answer to a question I > asked you some time ago, "Do you feel all perception and cognition (in > the mundane sense) are projection?" You answered affirmatively. > > I neither reject nor accept that premise (um, because I wouldn't want > to judge the premise :) -- but its fun to play with. In a 'serious > sense, and a jovial one. The latter first. > > Do some guys see (none here of course) see all tits as gorgeous and > can't stop staring at them because they think they themselves have > gorgeous tits? And they are simply projecting onto women? Or is it > that they see an seek motherly love and nourishment in everything. > Aka, needy. > > Is nab projecting a personal need to get a (better) job when he > repeatedly tells Ron to do so. > > Is Barry a "pissant" becasue he sees other as pissants (back awhile) > > Is Judy a liar because she sees others as liars? > > Does Vaj see conspiracy, and evil intent in TM because he is evil and > conspiratoral inside? > Do I see many things as funny, and laugh, when others do not -- is > that because I am a joke? Or just because I am funny (as in odd.) In some cases, I think these qualities may have represented "bardo- demons" that some of these people were wrestling with, for awhile. In the deeper sense, yes, these are mostly qualities of the universal self that the personality may have had a hard time accepting nonjudgmentally. > More seriously, I ponder, how can we see anything but a projection of > our inner world? All perception and cognition (mundane) is through our > own set of deep conditioning, filters samskaras, whatever. We see what > we are. Yes, and even when through whatever technique or grace we see through the filters, we still see the self -- albeit now in its innocence as That: self-evident, predominantly radiant, blissful, love itself, etc. > Perhaps a point is that terms need to be clarified. "Where the > criticism is coming from" -- is all criticism -- in the broad sense of > evaluation, feedback, etc a bad thing? No. In fact none of it "a bad thing" -- but some of it is rooted in, and an attempt to avoid, one's own suffering. >Is it projection for a boss to > say "you could do even better, be more communicative and expressive of > your ideas". Is that simply that she herself sees herself as > uncommunicative and unexpressive of her ideas? or is she simply > providing some useful feedback? Thus, is negative (towards spiteful) > criticism projection but objective useful feedback -- based on skills > of objective evaluation? Sure, and really to me it's all essentially irrelevant *except* as a means to self-diagnose and unravel one's own suffering. And that approach itself is apparently not going to be particularly meaningful to all people at all times in their lives :-) > > Things to ponder. >
