--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> This assumption forms the entire *basis* of guru yoga.
> "You should do what the guru says because he's *right*;
> his perceptions are accurate, free from distortion, 
> unclouded by the things that cloud our perceptions.
> The enlightened being's 'take' on things equates to
> Truth, because only in enlightenment can one begin to
> *perceive* Truth." And so on and so on.
> 
> So who believes that this is true?

Not in the way you describe it Barry. I think the way you describe it
here is a thorough mis-representation of of what Guru Yoga is all
about, and I am fully for it. Lets analyze 'You should do what the
Guru says..' okay until this point, but everything from then on is an
oversimplification which distorts truth and the merits of this path.

In my view it is an energetic thing. For this energetic transmission
to happen, there is what I would call a 'working agreement', which
both the Guru and the disciple are aware of. The Guru knows that the
disciple sees God in him/her, that he is a channel of this energy and
will work on the disciples energy-body and ego. A 'mature' disciple
would be able to distinguish between the relative persona of the Guru,
his /her humanity, and that what lies beyond it, and it would be a
grave mistake to mix the two up. Most Gurus I know about teach this in
one way or the other: to not mix up the two, his realtive outside
personality and the Divine essence behind.

The disciple is asked to focus on he Divine essence, which is the same
as in himself, therefore most traditions say that the Guru is within
yourself. The Guru is also within the disciple not just in this
abstract absolute way, but in an energetic and alchemical way, in his
energy-field. For this to work there has to be a close interaction
between Guru and disciple. The disciple has to live with the Guru and
has to watch him/her in everyday interactions. I believe this is not
the path for many people, but it certainly is a valid path many great
saints have walked. A disciple has to be surrendered to the Guru,
which he understands represents God to him in he relative field.It is
a way to make the abstract concept of God grasp-able in a person.

Now I am not saying that this concept cannot be misused, and that
there cannot be false Gurus, that there can't be power trips of Gurus
etc. But to take misuse as your measuring rod, you are likely to throw
out the baby with the bathwater.


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