--- In [email protected], "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" <shempmcgurk@>
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "do.rflex" <do.rflex@> 
wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > [snip]
> > 
> > > 
> > > Capitalism is indeed the most successful economic model yet 
developed,
> > > and the avarice that lies at its core among the most powerful
> > > motivators known.  But the system is designed to make private 
money,
> > > not public good.
> > 
> > [snip]
> > 
> > The first sentence of what you write above, do.rflex, is the best 
thing 
> > you've ever written...indeed, I think it should be in a book of 
quotes.
> > 
> > The second sentence, however, is slightly flawed and inaccurate.
> > 
> > Yes, the system makes for its sellers of goods and 
services "private 
> > money", as you say and is NOT designed to create any public 
good.  
> > However, as a by-product of this totally selfish-motivated 
system, I 
> > suggest to you that the public good is best served.
> > 
> > You and others have observed that this may be true in some 
sectors of 
> > the economy but it is not happening in the health sector.  And my 
> > observation would be: there isn't a true free market in the 
health 
> > sector; once there was, then we could judge it accordingly.  
There is 
> > TOO MUCH government control that in the health sector that I 
would 
> > suggest to you that its faults are the result of the socialized 
aspect, 
> > not the capitalist aspect.
> 
> 
> McDonald's and Exxon-Mobil exist for exactly the same purpose.  Yes,
> one of them sells billions of hamburgers, while the other pumps
> billions of barrels of oil, but grease is not the common interest 
they
> share.  It's money.
> 
> McDonald's Corporation exists to make money, not McRibs.  If the
> corporation thinks it can make more money by making high quality
> burgers at a high price, it will do that.  If it can make more money
> by making low quality burgers at a low price, it will do that.  And 
if
> they can get away with making low quality burgers at a high price,
> they will do that -- with great joy.
> 
> No matter what corporate motto is stamped on the side of products or
> what words hang on the boardroom wall, corporations are simply money
> machines.  That's true of McDonald's or Exxon-Mobil.  It's also true
> of Aetna, and HealthSouth, and Cigna, and Kaiser, and the other
> private health insurers. They exist to make money.  If they can make
> money by providing health services, they will do so.  If they can 
make
> more money by denying services, then they will do that.  They will
> provide exactly as much care as maximizes their profits.
> 
> And not a penny more.
> 
> The public good can NOT reliably depend on the greed of capitalism.
> Its motivation is NOT altruistic and its NOT designed with the 
common
> good in mind at all.
>

I agree with 100% of what you write above...

But I will add the following proviso: government does it 10 times 
worse.  So, whereever possible, even in the altruistic health care 
field, try to find a way to get free enterprise to provide the good 
or service needed because they'll do it bette than any government 
program will.

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