--- In [email protected], "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I was on Purusha for years and received thousands of dollars 
> of support from "sponsors," as did most other Purusha guys. 
> There were times when I and others on Purusha were really 
> earning our keep, and other times when we probably weren't. 
> I really grew tired of the "taker" lifestyle. It polluted
> my psychology and tarnished my friendships. I couldn't walk 
> into a room of TM people without scanning it for potential 
> sponsors. Over time, the attitude that the world owed me a 
> living because I was doing something important became more 
> and more deeply ingrained. After I left Purusha and got 
> married, it took a few years to uproot that attitude. 

I can only imagine. I've been writing a little
about the narcissism thing here because that's
one of the 'tudes I'm trying to uproot from 
myself, after decades of being around Maharishi
and Rama and picking up the narcissist mindset
from them. 

> Doing so was very healthy. 

I think so.

> It may be the best thing for Dakota's spiritual progress to 
> get a job in the real world and stop depending on others. 
> It may be hard for him to do that now, because he is older 
> and probably doesn't have marketable skills. So he may be 
> a dharma bum for the rest of his life. I think you are
> justified in feeling reluctant to support him. If you do 
> so, a realistic justification should probably be compassion 
> for someone who is too flakey to support himself, rather 
> than a sense that you are supporting some sort of spiritual 
> warrior. I'd let him go to Thailand to teach English. He'd 
> be doing seva and getting a taste of self-sufficiency, both 
> of which might be more spiritually beneficial for him than 
> hanging out in an ashram.

I was really musing rather than asking for advice. I'm 
not really one of his supporters at this point. I would
have felt better about his path if he *had* gone to
China to teach English for a while. But the decision to
stay at the ashram and continue studying rather than do
what he convinced all his supporters he was going to do
originally is really the kicker. 

If Dakota were really in trouble, *of course* I'd be right
there for him. That's just what friends do for friends.
But to enable him to stick around and suck guru energy
just because he wants to doesn't really feel like helping;
it feels like being an "enabler" to someone who's got a
heavy drug habit.

In my musings, I was just extrapolating from the immed-
iate situation to a more general one -- the pervasive idea
in spiritual circles that because you're following what
you feel is a spiritual path, the world owes you a living.
Or God owes you a living. Bottom line is, someone *owes*
you for doing what you want to do anyway. 

This concept has come up for me when listening to Ron
shill for his teacher, and when hearing the pitches for
more money for butt-bouncing and rent-a-pundits. For the
latter, the clear implication is that if you *don't*
contribute, something is badly wrong with you. You're
"withholding funds" from the truly spiritual people whose
vision is clear and know that there is a better use for
your money than what you might have imagined. For the
record, Rick, this feeling has *never* come up for me 
when hearing you speak about Amma, or on the rare occas-
ions when tr3nity talks about Mother Meera. I'm sure 
there is a push to have devotees contribute there, too, 
but it doesn't seem oriented towards "Support *me* because 
I've decided to lead a spiritual life and you haven't."

And when I listen to many people in many different
spiritual traditions talk about enlightenment, and what
life will be like for them *when* they're enlightened,
I often hear a bit of this same concept. It's like 
underneath all the other stuff like "I won't be able
to do anything wrong because I'll be in tune with the
laws of nature" there is this undercurrent of "I won't
have to worry any more because my life will be perfect.
I probably won't even have to work because people will
pay my bills just to hear me expound wisdom to them."

It all just makes me think that somewhere along the
line someone really missed the point. It may well have
been me, and if so I can live with that. But I'll be
paying my own way *as* I live with it.



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