--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In my musings, I was just extrapolating from the immed- > iate situation to a more general one -- the pervasive idea > in spiritual circles that because you're following what > you feel is a spiritual path, the world owes you a living. > Or God owes you a living. Bottom line is, someone *owes* > you for doing what you want to do anyway. ... > It all just makes me think that somewhere along the > line someone really missed the point. It may well have > been me, and if so I can live with that. But I'll be > paying my own way *as* I live with it.
(A riff, a pondering, a view, not a counter argument or disagreement). Aren't we dependent on others, regardless? (Regardless of the illusion that one is not). We are dependent upon employers or clients for our livelihood. We have been dependent on "good luck" to have gotten that job. We were dependent on others' good recommendations to get the job. We often were dependent on good fortune to have heard of this opening or job. Could we have gotten the job, had work to do, gotten paid for it at the level we are compensated if we were the only person in the universe? If not, then we must be dependent on others for our livelihood. But you say, "I" made the effort. Unlike Dakota who makes no effort. But if one does not own thoughts and actions, or if the is no or only the residue oo "me", then where is the effort? Or if we are "in the zone" where is the effort? If we are good at what we do, and do it as naturally as driving, where is the effort? Turq will laugh and perhaps ridicule this last point -- which is good skepticism. But then answer me, "did you create your thought to and how to get the job? If so, how did you create that thought? I don't get that concept. To me, thoughts just come. No effort. And did you create the others in the universe upon which your job an compensation are based? (And this does not imply anyone or anything did create these things)" If we have a good job, secure savings, a home, etc -- in other words, have "made" it, unlike Dakota, what but good fortune, and dependence on others allows us to maintain such? Don't we all have our begging bowls out? "Oh thank you "sir", thank you for that thought. Oh, thank you ma'm for that business that gave me the job. Oh thank you guy, for providing all the people that make my job possible" It seems perhaps a bit arrogant to proclaim that we, by our own effort, created all of that.
