--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sep 1, 2007, at 2:11 AM, new.morning wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > > I am not sure i agree. To assert in one breath that one has the right > > and sanction to declare one "crazy" in Florida -- (re)establishing > > their credentials, and in the next (a few days later) to assert, on > > line, to a virtual stranger, that based on some posts that they are > > i) crazy, and ii) and recommending powerful psychotropic drugs, > > seems a bit unprofessional, IMO. But what do I know. Ask the Florida > > licensing board.
Fascinating post Vaj. > > I think most non-professionals would be surprised at the degree of > accuracy of some psychological and psychiatric professionals in > assessing general state of mind and disorders such as personality > disorders just based on a persons textual output. How exactly is the accuracy of their diagnoses determined? It seems to me that remote diagnoses of strangers, with no contextual understanding of their life, dynamics, past, etc. is prone to substantial error. Are these evaluations accurate, in your view, because the psychologist who made the diagnosis said it was? Are there studies where 95% of 100 psychological professionals agreed on such remote, non-contextual diagnoses of strangers? That indeed would be strange in that psychologists apparently disagree among themselves on diagnoses of clients of whom they have a clinical and contextual evaluation, and have actually met the person. > In a case like FFL, > we're talking thousands and thousands of words, so these would not be > mere passing observations. I think they would also be surprised what > such professionals say about others they know (at work, friends, > etc.) when they get together and their ability to accurately diagnose > based merely on interactions, body language, etc. which is lacking here. > I know a number of professionals who've commented on the mental > health of certain FFL participants and their appears to be some > general agreement in their conclusions. "a number" ? Beyond Peter and Kevin (the other pychologist who sometimes posts here). The implication of "a number" is more than "simply a few". Is it 5? 10? such professionals? Why do such professinals only lurk on FFL? And only devulge their "findings" to you. Seems odd, but if you say its true, it must be. And they all agree? Amazing. Or is it possible this numerous group are making casual observations about possibilities? Again, it would seem strange such professionals would make specific, learned and steady fast evaluations based on some posts. But again, if you say its true, it must be. > But none of the above would I construe as formal diagnoses. Oh. So such "evaluations" are more of a casual speculative observational nature about possible symptoms of some inner dynamics. Well, that certainly is interesting. Hardly conclusive as to the ability to accurately make remote diagnoses of strangers. I just > feel some people want to pile on Dr. Pete and/or make a mountain out > of mole hill. Good. Just feel that sensation. Close the eyes. feel how the sensation changes, perhaps diminishes. I am glad you understand that this is your subjective feeling, which is of course quite a different thing from objective reality (though they may overlap at times). Sometimes people comment on things that others write because they are interesting, or the point made seems odd or unsubstantiated. With no reference to the poster, personal qualities. Much less piling on such a person. >It could also be that the person complaining does have > some history of being picked on by peers since childhood or have some > traumatic event that makes them especially sensitive to such statements. Wow. Could be. What are the other 3 million possibilities? Why did, in your mind, this one singular possibility arise? > I can't also ignore the fact that TM and TMSP-based kundalini Is there a sensations associated with this inability to ignore a thought? Good. So you know how to deal with such sensations. > disorders can help give rise to and/or exacerbate personality > disorders and a wide range of psychological pathology. In this case, > the more you meditate, the worse it can get. Again, why do you suppose, in your mind, this one singular possibility, out of millions, arose?
