Hi all,

I just installed FarCry 5.0 and am about to start looking at how FourQ
works. This is going to be included in an upcoming article about ORM
tools for FAQU. Actually it's a follow-up because I already wrote an
introductory ORM article that was a bit rushed. This article is going
to show side-by-side comparisons of the various ORM tools that I was
only able to mention in the previous article.

I was actually just about to post a blog about a couple of things with
regard to getting started and then decided rather than blog about it
that I would post it here. Some of you may already know that I have
Asperger Syndrome and so my social skills are often not the most
spectacular. ;) And since I was experiencing a bit of frustration with
my new FarCry install I decided that rather than keep with my habit of
sharing my frustrations directly with the broader community, I would
try and see if I can work on those people skills and instead bring my
frustrations here.

As of yet my frustration isn't about learning to work with FarCry as a
development platform.

I got my first "testproject" installed and looked at some of the
webtop tools and then had to leave it and come back. When I came back
I was surprised to find that my FarCry installation was telling me
that I still didn't have a project. I thought this was odd, so I did a
quick search and came up with this thread on the beta list:

http://groups.google.com/group/farcry-beta/browse_thread/thread/399c81eef400b7dc

Thanks for the info on initializing the project, Geoff. That was
helpful. I do agree with Matt, that its probably a good idea to revise
that message to say something about "if you know that you've already
created a project, you may need to initialize it..."

This also lead to another frustration for me. The thread didn't
mention where that subdirectory project would be located (and I didn't
remember). My first instinct was that it would be within the FarCry
directory. I realize that's likely not the first instinct of a lot of
programmers who are familiar with frameworks like Mach-II where the
framework is installed in a directory separate from the project
skeleton. So then I looked and saw that it had created it in my apache
htdocs directory.

There's a good chance I'm really alone here, but this was a big turn
off for me. I don't think it's the fact that it's in the htdocs
directory that's the turn-off, because I have installations of other
frameworks that are set up similarly. It's more that I don't recall
the installer telling me it was going to put it there. Maybe it did
and for whatever reason I didn't notice, but it just didn't seem
transparent to me when I was installing it that it was going to go in
my htdocs directory. And for what it's worth, if the installer is
going to be creating files outside the framework directory, I'd like
there to be more transparency -- for it to say "hey, we'd like to
create files in c:\apache\htdocs\[project] if that's okay" and give me
the option to change that.

If I just missed it in the installer, then I'll go back and have
another look. And I may offer a suggestion or two to help make it more
transparent.

Thanks
ike

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