Somehow I thought I had subscribed to this group via email, but apparently not... heh... why I didn't reply sooner. I'll have to go back and do the installation again and have a look at how it displays and see if I have any decent suggestions for improving the transparency there. It did rather seem like the installer was designed to handle a variety of different options, and I'm certainly familiar with working on tools that are designed primarily for other folks. I generally don't use underscores in the column names of my database tables, but was recently adding a feature to DataFaucet to allow it to automatically strip them. Not something I would generally use but apparently some folks find it useful. But of course because I don't use it on a daily basis it's not as thoroughly tested. :)
I'll let you know when I get some time to go back and run through the installer again. I was working on that article for FAQU about ORM tools last week and this week I need to get caught up on another project. Not entirely sure when I'll make the time for it, but hopefully next week. p.s. thanks for the jump-start URL -- I think I had found that in the comments on one of the doc-wiki pages. It was pretty helpful while writing the ORM article. :) ike On Oct 6, 8:14 pm, modius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Oct 4, 4:51 pm, ike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > As of yet my frustration isn't about learning to work with FarCry as a > > development platform. > > Be sure to check out the new JumpStart guide to > development:http://org.farcrycore.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/farcry-jumpstart-500-2008... > > (not particularly well advertised at the moment) > > > I got my first "testproject" installed and looked at some of the > > webtop tools and then had to leave it and come back. When I came back > > I was surprised to find that my FarCry installation was telling me > > that I still didn't have a project. I thought this was odd, so I did a > > quick search and came up with this thread on the beta list: > > >http://groups.google.com/group/farcry-beta/browse_thread/thread/399c8... > > > Thanks for the info on initializing the project, Geoff. That was > > helpful. I do agree with Matt, that its probably a good idea to revise > > that message to say something about "if you know that you've already > > created a project, you may need to initialize it..." > > Agreed -- it appears to be a common problem for first time installs. > > Our issue as a development team is that this particular type of > install (sub-directory install) is not the way we do things in-house. > We nearly always use a standalone or advanced install. The sub- > directory installation was specifically designed for folks who have > only got a single web root, such as in a shared hosting environment. > > Any feedback folks can offer in this area is much appreciated. > Especially in terms of making it clear how things are working, and > whether or not we doing stuff that is actually useful for developers > using this type of installation. > > > > > This also lead to another frustration for me. The thread didn't > > mention where that subdirectory project would be located (and I didn't > > remember). My first instinct was that it would be within the FarCry > > directory. I realize that's likely not the first instinct of a lot of > > programmers who are familiar with frameworks like Mach-II where the > > framework is installed in a directory separate from the project > > skeleton. So then I looked and saw that it had created it in my apache > > htdocs directory. > > > There's a good chance I'm really alone here, but this was a big turn > > off for me. I don't think it's the fact that it's in the htdocs > > directory that's the turn-off, because I have installations of other > > frameworks that are set up similarly. It's more that I don't recall > > the installer telling me it was going to put it there. Maybe it did > > and for whatever reason I didn't notice, but it just didn't seem > > transparent to me when I was installing it that it was going to go in > > my htdocs directory. And for what it's worth, if the installer is > > going to be creating files outside the framework directory, I'd like > > there to be more transparency -- for it to say "hey, we'd like to > > create files in c:\apache\htdocs\[project] if that's okay" and give me > > the option to change that. > > It should be on the confirmation page just prior to the install -- I > can't remember if it actually is or not :) But certainly its a good > idea and easy enough to implement. > > The installer is trying to address a lot of different options for > installation -- we've tried to be as flexible as possible with respect > to options for deployment cos we know everyone has different > environments. We don't like to install projects into the framework > directory as it typically makes it harder to version control -- at > least the way we manage projects internally. But that probably > reflects the way we like to do things ;) We're certainly open to > specific suggestions to make the whole process more transparent and > less frustrating for folks who do things differently. > > All the best, > > geoffhttp://www.daemon.com.au/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "farcry-dev" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/farcry-dev?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
