On Oct 4, 4:51 pm, ike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As of yet my frustration isn't about learning to work with FarCry as a > development platform.
Be sure to check out the new JumpStart guide to development: http://org.farcrycore.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/farcry-jumpstart-500-20080905.pdf (not particularly well advertised at the moment) > I got my first "testproject" installed and looked at some of the > webtop tools and then had to leave it and come back. When I came back > I was surprised to find that my FarCry installation was telling me > that I still didn't have a project. I thought this was odd, so I did a > quick search and came up with this thread on the beta list: > > http://groups.google.com/group/farcry-beta/browse_thread/thread/399c8... > > Thanks for the info on initializing the project, Geoff. That was > helpful. I do agree with Matt, that its probably a good idea to revise > that message to say something about "if you know that you've already > created a project, you may need to initialize it..." Agreed -- it appears to be a common problem for first time installs. Our issue as a development team is that this particular type of install (sub-directory install) is not the way we do things in-house. We nearly always use a standalone or advanced install. The sub- directory installation was specifically designed for folks who have only got a single web root, such as in a shared hosting environment. Any feedback folks can offer in this area is much appreciated. Especially in terms of making it clear how things are working, and whether or not we doing stuff that is actually useful for developers using this type of installation. > This also lead to another frustration for me. The thread didn't > mention where that subdirectory project would be located (and I didn't > remember). My first instinct was that it would be within the FarCry > directory. I realize that's likely not the first instinct of a lot of > programmers who are familiar with frameworks like Mach-II where the > framework is installed in a directory separate from the project > skeleton. So then I looked and saw that it had created it in my apache > htdocs directory. > > There's a good chance I'm really alone here, but this was a big turn > off for me. I don't think it's the fact that it's in the htdocs > directory that's the turn-off, because I have installations of other > frameworks that are set up similarly. It's more that I don't recall > the installer telling me it was going to put it there. Maybe it did > and for whatever reason I didn't notice, but it just didn't seem > transparent to me when I was installing it that it was going to go in > my htdocs directory. And for what it's worth, if the installer is > going to be creating files outside the framework directory, I'd like > there to be more transparency -- for it to say "hey, we'd like to > create files in c:\apache\htdocs\[project] if that's okay" and give me > the option to change that. It should be on the confirmation page just prior to the install -- I can't remember if it actually is or not :) But certainly its a good idea and easy enough to implement. The installer is trying to address a lot of different options for installation -- we've tried to be as flexible as possible with respect to options for deployment cos we know everyone has different environments. We don't like to install projects into the framework directory as it typically makes it harder to version control -- at least the way we manage projects internally. But that probably reflects the way we like to do things ;) We're certainly open to specific suggestions to make the whole process more transparent and less frustrating for folks who do things differently. All the best, geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "farcry-dev" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/farcry-dev?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
