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In general, I dont see the error recovery option vaible in Linux,And often, so verbose, so full of arcane nomenclature, that it is less informative to those who have not seriously studied Linux. Mostly I see this a result of the fact that Linux evolved in the network environment, and includes a vast array of tools for dealing with that, whereas I work on *personal* desktops whose only network is the ISP. And when it comes to identifying problems within a given pc case, the quick dos boot makes life a lot easier, to fiddle with Jesus Jumpers & DIP sw, or swap out components.
Maybe its a lack of familiarity, because I am always _much_ more
knowledgable about what's going on with a Linux system then with a DOS
System. It does not just get stuck, you always can open other terms, or
see some log's about what is happening by pressing Alt+F2, Alt+F3, etc. The kernel is very verbose about everything whats going on inside
(dmesg), and about what hardware was recognised (cat /proc/pci, etc.).
I use dos cause I am trying to trace hardware problems, and have all kinds of controller cards, drives, & cables to swap out. I dont do windoz.
Usually I carry around a Linux Kernel floppy or CD, to diagnose whichI have done much the same with dos, but with dos, I am already familar with the diagnostic tools, hotkeys, nomenclature, & file managers (which are much more elegant than MC). Diagnosis, maintenance, and repair will be popular uses for dos for quite a while yet. Have you been able to access a WIN NTFS with a linux floppy?
hardware is in a computer, and to realize maintainance and recovery
tasks. (Wow! _how_ offtopic one can get!)
DB>And with setting up your own comunity ISP based on Linux ;-)Yes, I see that the problem is past the ppp because I do get the 'connect' and then the %ascend% prompt. I just got an email from ozcom support saying that they were doing system maintenance on 0400 friday. I'll get on the stick and order some newer Linux distros before then. Thanx for the tip, I'll watch out for Debian.
No. Seriously, ppp is quite a standard protocoll and maybe what is
breaking things are more likely changing login procedures.
Between the server, and all the java/flash crap on the nets, I can see that dos browsing is going to get even less functional. And yes, I have considered trying to establish another local ISP with a non-win server. But I already have a life.
I've read of an xwin port to dos, and if Mozilla can be made to run on dos, then dos surfing might become feasible again. With modern hardware so fast, I dont see the need to have apps running in the 'background' when they can be so rapidly transfered from a disk cache or vdisk. If dos dont do popups, I'd consider that a 'feature'.
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