Hi, Brian from Griffith here - you raise a point which has been on my mind for a while now. I'm a statisticy kind of person, and couldn't believe there were not reliable stats in place for pass rates on these exams. Some of the examiners made note of percentage passes in the reports (e.g. EU on occasion).
So, right now, I have some members of the faculty trying to gather statistics from past students at Griffith but, quite reasonably, one's results, as noted above can be very personal. I considered about a dozen forms of questions which could assist in data gathering, but the only really sensible one was "how many subjects did you pass first time", which I would then hope to express as a percentage of the subjects they took at Griffith giving a somewhat decent indicator of first time success. We are having some success, but to gather a good data set, the amount of calls required is insane. They've been at it for about 2 weeks now, and will go for 2 weeks more. But it is the one question I get asked (especially by non-law graduates) all the time, and I don't think anyone has really been able to answer it - maybe soon I will once we get the data set together. Once the data is there, I'll pass it on. On stats, however, there is a wide point to note. Suppose, for example, we received feedback that of 2000 exams (lets say, for the sake of clarity, this is 500 students by 4 exams), there were 1000 fails giving a pass rate of 50%. Now, in the ordinary course of things, that wouldn't be great. However, because of the "you have to sit 4" rule, my experience is that very many students register for 4, but only concentrate on 3. Of that group, there are some who don't sit the exam and those who do sit the exam, but only on a punt after a little work - i.e. they aren't "counting" it. Thus they "fail" one but they haven't really attempted it. Hence, the law societies failure rate wouldn't really reflect "real" failures The real statistic - the one that everyone would want - would be the percentage of failures expressed against "real" attempts at papers, but then we'd have to classify what it meant to be a "real" attempt etc which would never happen from the examiners point of view. Brian GCD --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "FE-1 Study Group" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.ie/group/FE-1-Study-Group?hl=en-GB -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
