Hey 8th timer I would second John on that. Many of my friends and colleagues are now on short time and the dole queue and it is heartbreaking for them. Particularly after all the studies and hard work.
Getting the FE-1S should not be allowed to consume you. I sat my first well, 6 actually and indeed I passed theses 6 on the first attempt. I guess before I took em on I understood the amount, breath and range of study that is required for the exams. That is what motivated me to study - literally understand everything - not to learn it off !! Fatal to your performance on the day if u have it learned off as u will be pigeon holed and even if what u have learned comes up in some fashion you wont be able to answer it succinctly if u do not have a broad understanding of it. I then passed the oother 2 on the second sitting. Yes it was tough but during that process I decided that I no longer wanted to become a Solicitor and instead I opted to undertake further study in the law - looked for research grants etc and go into teaching fo the Law itself - might be less pay but it is far more rewarding. I suppose what I am trying to say is becoming a Solicitor is no longer the buzz it used to be, but if u have a Law degree it allows you to do plenty of other stuff. So be flexible in your attitude otherwise u will be disappointed. By all means go for it if u can - but in your studies keep it simple and direct your learning to the broad elements of your course that way u will be better equipped to pass the exams - and u will pass first time this time ! I totally admire you for your resilience and tenacity in becoming an 8th timer !! U deserve to pass based on that fact alone !! Best of Luck ! On 2 May, 14:51, john <[email protected]> wrote: > My experience: > > Sat first 4 a number of years ago and passed 1 I think but it was the > best thing really as it gave me some reality on the amount of work > involved. > > Made a second attempt at 4 and passed them. Next sitting sat 2 and > passed and then the two remaining I sat individually and passed. This > was all in between travelling and working full time so I wasnt really > under pressure to pass them quickly. > > I hear the pass rate is about 50-60% for these exams. > > Getting a traineeship is the hardest part of the process followed by > the FE1's and then obviously PPC (which is very managable if you put > the work in). > > My understanding is that the Education Committee in the LS are > steering the FE Q's more towards understanding the issues rather than > regurgitating prepared answers (which was always risky). > > Obviously after all that is completed and you finally get on the Roll > you will find yourself out of work and signing on!! > Seriously if anybody asked me whether law is a career to follow I'd > say no do something else but I guess if you are already in the system > finish off your training and you can walk away from it but with a > professional qualification to boot. > > On May 1, 10:34 pm, 8th Timer <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Thanks for that Brian, glad to hear there is someone out there on the > > case. > > > The stat I would be very interested in is the amount of candidates > > that passed one or two exams in their first four, as I think this is > > the part of the exam system that most students find to be the most > > arbitary. Personally, I passed four different exams on three > > occassions of sitting my first 4. (I eventually got there, but was > > very frustrating) > > > On May 1, 9:28 am, brian <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Brian from Griffith here - you raise a point which has been on my mind > > > for a while now. I'm a statisticy kind of person, and couldn't > > > believe there were not reliable stats in place for pass rates on these > > > exams. Some of the examiners made note of percentage passes in the > > > reports (e.g. EU on occasion). > > > > So, right now, I have some members of the faculty trying to gather > > > statistics from past students at Griffith but, quite reasonably, one's > > > results, as noted above can be very personal. I considered about a > > > dozen forms of questions which could assist in data gathering, but the > > > only really sensible one was "how many subjects did you pass first > > > time", which I would then hope to express as a percentage of the > > > subjects they took at Griffith giving a somewhat decent indicator of > > > first time success. We are having some success, but to gather a good > > > data set, the amount of calls required is insane. They've been at it > > > for about 2 weeks now, and will go for 2 weeks more. > > > > But it is the one question I get asked (especially by non-law > > > graduates) all the time, and I don't think anyone has really been able > > > to answer it - maybe soon I will once we get the data set together. > > > > Once the data is there, I'll pass it on. > > > > On stats, however, there is a wide point to note. Suppose, for > > > example, we received feedback that of 2000 exams (lets say, for the > > > sake of clarity, this is 500 students by 4 exams), there were 1000 > > > fails giving a pass rate of 50%. Now, in the ordinary course of > > > things, that wouldn't be great. However, because of the "you have to > > > sit 4" rule, my experience is that very many students register for 4, > > > but only concentrate on 3. Of that group, there are some who don't > > > sit the exam and those who do sit the exam, but only on a punt after a > > > little work - i.e. they aren't "counting" it. Thus they "fail" one > > > but they haven't really attempted it. Hence, the law societies > > > failure rate wouldn't really reflect "real" failures > > > > The real statistic - the one that everyone would want - would be the > > > percentage of failures expressed against "real" attempts at papers, > > > but then we'd have to classify what it meant to be a "real" attempt > > > etc which would never happen from the examiners point of view. > > > > Brian > > > > GCD- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "FE-1 Study Group" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.ie/group/FE-1-Study-Group?hl=en-GB -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
