That is the point at which I was getting-- I wonder if M. Jallud's domain is 
being effectively and efficiently represented in Fedora.

Something I see a great deal in early use of Fedora is the desire to map 
preexisting persistence architectures directly onto the repository. E.g. the 
expectation that a "directory of files" will become an "object of datastreams".

I don't know what M. Jallud is thinking and I don't mean to imply any 
criticism, but I do wonder about any Fedora-based architecture featuring 
objects with thousands of datastreams. It can be objectively said that such an 
architecture is not at all idiomatic.

---
A. Soroka
Digital Research and Scholarship R & D and Online Library Environment
the University of Virginia Library




On Dec 21, 2010, at 10:06 AM, Alex Rodriguez Lopez wrote:

> Hi.
> 
> Maybe I'm missing something here, but wouldn't be a better approach to 
> create new objects (each with 1 (or some, but not 100s) datastream) for 
> each file and have them relate to the primary object 
> https://wiki.duraspace.org/display/FCR30/Digital+Object+Relationships ?
> 
> Instead of having 1 object with 1000s datastreams, you have 1 object 
> linked to 1000s objects (each with one datastream).
> 
> Unless you *REALLY* need all to reside in one big XML...
> 
> Pierre-Yves JALLUD, 21-12-2010 14:52:
>> Thanks for your answers. That conforts me in the idea that the objects I
>> wanted to store in FedoraCommons are not adapted for this kind of
>> system. I'll impose to the users to split there archives in an
>> acceptable number of files. They used to have a maximum of 1000 or 2000
>> datastreams (exceptionaly) and FC has correct answers' times. That will
>> be the limit of my system.
>> Thank you again and greetings
>> 
>>> I am wondering a little about the data model in play here. I may have
>>> missed an earlier part of this conversation, but I wonder if you could
>>> describe your domain problem a little, M. Jallud?
>>> Perhaps we can find a more efficient and idiomatic way to use Fedora's
>>> CMA than is now obvious to you... to have more than a few dozen
>>> datastreams in a content model is very unusual and
>>> implies the possibility of useful refactoring.
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> A. Soroka
>>> Digital Research and Scholarship R& D and Online Library Environment
>>> the University of Virginia Library
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Dec 20, 2010, at 9:00 AM, Asger Askov Blekinge wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Sounds about right, but this is not a hard limit.
>>>> 
>>>> As you know, Fedora stores the datastreams in one big xml file.
>>>> 
>>>> What is the maximum size of xml files? How many elements can there
>>> be in
>>>> an xml list? How long do you want to wait for fedora to parse this
>>>> object? Those are the relevant questions, and by answering them, you
>>>> will have answered your original question.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, 2010-12-20 at 14:54 +0100, Pierre-Yves JALLUD wrote:
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>> I'm using 3.2.1 version of FedoraCommons. I wonder what is the maximum
>>>>> number of datastreams that we can add in a single object. My
>>> experiments
>>>>> seem to demonstrate that this number is around 32000 (32768?...). Is
>>>>> that true? Is that always true in the last versions?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for your answers.
>>>>> Pierre-Yves
>> 
>> 
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