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On Sun, 21 Nov 2021 at 16:08, <[email protected]> wrote:

> El sáb, 20-11-2021 a las 18:50 +0000, Ahmed Almeleh escribió:
> > Greetings Project Leader, Sir,
> >
> > I do see your points and I agree that it's all a bit of a confusion
> > as to
> > where new users should be directed to.
> >
> > Actually, I myself joined only a month ago and I must admit the
> > Fedora Join
> > SIG did actually get me confused at first.
> >
> > The link to the Fedora Join SIG Docs:
> > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-join/
> >
> > I think should be moved to :
> > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-join-sig
> >
> > instead which may ease the confusion a bit.
> >
> >
> >
> > Finallly, I am all for having a user-focused "Join Fedora '' docs
> > section on docs.fedoraproject.org that is separate from the Join SIG
> > docs.
> >
> > Maybe we could rename the Fedora Join SIG, "Fedora Mentors" as it is
> > essentially what they do. When helping out new contributors. This
> > will
> > allow us to further avoid confusion.
> >
>
> Mentoring newcomers is one of the TEAM activities.. amount others....
>
> we organize classroom session, contribute in askfedora/discussion site,
> write quick-docs, etc...
>
> > "Fedora Mentors"
>
> I don't know this name will be confusing with other activities in
> mentoring which fedora has.
>
> > Also I felt a little nervous writing an email to the big project
> > leader.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ahmed Almeleh
> > He / Him / His
> > Fedora QA
> >
> > On Sat, 20 Nov 2021 at 18:01, Matthew Miller
> > <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I often want to send people to Join Fedora, to, you know, Join
> > > Fedora. :)
> > >
> > > But I'm actually a little confused where to start.
> > >
> > >
> > > Héctor is re-doing https://whatcanidoforfedora.org/, and that's
> > > going to
> > > be
> > > nice, but I don't think it's ready and also I don't necessarily
> > > think it's
> > > the right path for everyone.
> > >
> > > The first google hit that comes up is
> > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join,
> > > but ... that's pretty old, not very well maintained, and doesn't
> > > really
> > > represent current activities in the project very well. Plus, I do
> > > not want
> > > to send new folks into the minefield that is the wiki right away.
> > >
> > > Also, "join.fedoraproject.org" currently links there.
> > >
> > >
> > > Then, there's this:
> > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-join/
> > >
> > > which I _think_ is helpful, but I find somewhat confusing because
> > > it mixes
> > > up the business of the Join SIG (that is, all the helpful people
> > > working to
> > > provide a nice onboarding process) with the onboarding process
> > > itself.
> > >
> > > That page points to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Welcome,
> > > which...
> > >
> > > 1. Is frighteningly bare-bones.
> > > 2. Has the "it's the wiki" problem again
> > > 3. Points to Telegram — I don't have a problem with that as a
> > > platform to
> > >    bring people on, but as a service outside of project control,
> > > shouldn't
> > >    be where we start. (If people are on and comfortable with
> > > Telegram,
> > > cool,
> > >    let's meet them there. But I don't want to give the impression
> > > that
> > >    signing up for telegram is a first step to
> > > 4. Also IRC; that's a temporary problem until we get
> > > chat.fedoraproject.org
> > >    officially launched, though.
> > >
> > >
> > > Anyway, in short, what's the link I should use for someone who
> > > wants to get
> > > involved?
> > >
> > > And, leading question: should we have a user-focused "Join Fedora"
> > > docs
> > > section on docs.fedoraproject.org that is separate from the Join
> > > SIG docs?
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Matthew Miller
> > > <[email protected]>
> > > Fedora Project Leader
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