On Thu, 2009-01-15 at 14:33 +0000, Steve wrote:
> ---- Craig White <[email protected]> wrote: 
> > On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 14:31 -0500, Steve wrote:
> > > ---- Craig White <[email protected]> wrote: 
> > > > On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 16:23 +0000, Steve wrote:
> > > > > If I let HAL & friends automagically mount my Windows partition mount 
> > > > > reports this: 
> > > > >  
> > > > > # mount 
> > > > > ... 
> > > > > /dev/sdb1 on /media/disk type fuseblk 
> > > > > (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096) 
> > > > >  
> > > > > The problem is that I want this partition mounted on /mnt/c_drive not 
> > > > > /media/disk so I tried to add a line to /etc/fstab as follows: 
> > > > >  
> > > > > /dev/sdb1    /mnt/c_drive       fuse    
> > > > > rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096    
> > > > > 0 0 
> > > > >  
> > > > > (I started with a type of fuseblk instead of fuse but that didn't 
> > > > > work at all 
> > > > > and note that fuse is not documented in the mount man page) 
> > > > >  
> > > > > but then as root 
> > > > > # mount /dev/sdb1 
> > > > > /bin/sh: /dev/sdb1: Permission denied 
> > > > >  
> > > > > # ls -l /dev/sdb1 
> > > > > brw-r----- 1 root disk 8, 17 2009-01-12 13:24 /dev/sdb1 
> > > > >  
> > > > > It's not a selinux problem because I'm running in permissive mode: 
> > > > > # sestatus 
> > > > > SELinux status:                 enabled 
> > > > > SELinuxfs mount:                /selinux 
> > > > > Current mode:                   permissive 
> > > > > Mode from config file:          permissive 
> > > > > Policy version:                 23 
> > > > > Policy from config file:        targeted 
> > > > >  
> > > > > This is on an F8 system and I'm trying to get my backup to work so I 
> > > > > can upgrade 
> > > > > to F9. 
> > > > >  
> > > > > What am I doing wrong here? 
> > > > ----
> > > > perhaps you are just trying to use too much muscle
> > > 
> > > Perhaps I am but personally I don't consider editing /etc/fstab to be 
> > > heavy lifting.
> > > 
> > > > why not just let it mount like it does and use a bind mount elsewhere...
> > > > 
> > > > mount --bind /media/disk /mnt/c_drive
> > > 
> > > I've no doubt that this will work but there HAS to be a simple way to 
> > > mount a partition where I want directly. It juts seems so basic.
> > ----
> > The problem you have is that you are starting with a swimming upstream
> > premise.
> > 
> > USB storage is considered 'removable storage' and thus is typically
> > handled by udev as user - which sort of makes sense if you stop to
> > consider it. The 'user' can mount/unmount removable storage devices at
> > any time.
> > 
> > /mnt was never intended to be for anything but permanently mounted
> > filesystems, i.e. not removable - no user action required or reasonably
> > permitted.
> > 
> > Now if this 'windows filesystem' (and you don't specify what kind it
> > is), is to be mounted by root at boot and remain mounted without any
> > user interaction at all, then by all means add it to /etc/fstab as vfat
> > (if it's vfat) or ntfs-3g (if it's ntfs and recognize that the ntfs-3g
> > automatically uses the fuse system for you).
> 
> Indeed it is a permanently mounted drive (internal IDE) and it has been 
> mounted on /mnt since before /media became popular.
> 
> I'll try changing the type from fuse to ntfs tonight and see what that does. 
> The error message of "permission denied" leads me to think that this will not 
> solve the problem but hey, I've been wrong before...1982 I think it was... ;-D
> 
> I have to say though that I am really suprised that nobody on this list can 
> give a simple answer to the seemingly simple question of "how do I change the 
> mount point of a hard drive".
----
Say what? Linux didn't have the ability to read/write to ntfs
filesystems before udev so there's something wrong with your premise.

Craig

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