Drago,
I'm 90% certain it was in Magician... Am wary of saying to much in case
it spoils the story for someone... it was close to "the games" while
talking to Hocho who immersed in the Tsurani culture didn't see things
the same way. (Hopes that is just enough to remind people without
spoiling it for anyone else).
It occurs to me of course that stagnation of a culture due to becoming
more war like doesn't mean there can't be changes to the language... I'm
thinking specifically of the UK in World War II... as a nation we became
more focused on war than some other more cultural pursuits, many new
word/slang came into general language to describe what was happening
around people.
Elliott
On 30/11/2011 18:49, Dragosani wrote:
Hi all,
This has cropped up recently in some other form for me in the last few
days so I may offer an observation....
Some other splendid bugger stated recently that languages do change
over time....and those that do not, simply stagnate (when I read this
I thought of Pug/Milamber talking about the stagnation of Tsurani -
art, music, culture etc - apologies cannot remember in which book it
was but I'll thwap myself to sleep tonight over this..erm, I
mean...*cough* Ok I digress....)
SO! :) This led me onto the change in English language (for us
Brits I think I would still say "spelled" Ray, but ridicule the Brits
that said it was "spelt") and the change this has undergone rapidly
since the explosion in mobile phones and texting...Teachers in
English schools unable to mark papers (or more PC - cannot mark down
papers that are written in txt speak)....So the english language
(especially for young-uns) has already undergone a rapid change...But
I see this change not as advancement of the species,
rather than more of a stagnation - because laziness is not learning
how to spell correctly and take shortcuts, is definately not moving
forward....
So where was I, and what was I aiming at - I have no idea....*takes
another swig of port* Languages...they do "progress" and change over
time - to reflect the ethos and general experience of that era - are
we heading for Dark Days in the UK? I think we're already
there :P
Regards,
Drago
On 29/11/2011 4:28 PM, Niko Schönau wrote:
Languages are pretty interesting. Especially when it comes to
dialects or accents. From a linguists point of view these are former
states of the language which are preserved. What we encounter today
is a rather rapid change of language, especially since the internet
is widely available. The language used in the internet is something
between written and spoken which means is it less formal for example.
From my point of view, we encounter this rapid changing since there
are no real barriers between communities and countries anymore
(figuratively). So closed systems (more or less) like languages
become open once again because the people who are in these systems
are getting a whole lot of new influences which they haven't had
before. Indeed pretty interesting.
Best, Niko.
*Von:*[email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] *Im Auftrag von
*Paul Maynard
*Betreff:* RE: Language drift
While it isn't something that would usually jump out at me as an
interesting subject, I must admit I was quite fascinated by that
whole conversation. Especially things like Liverpool carrying a very
strong regional accent and developing it's speech due to having a
very busy dock and stuff like that. It makes a lot of sense when it's
pointed out to you, it just wasn't something I'd never thought about
before.
Regards,
Paul
> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>
> Sometime back years ago a thread touched on the evolution of
languages and I made the point they tended to change rapidly until
the advent of the printing press, which pretty much began fixing it
in place once more people agreed on how things should be spelled
(spelt for you Brits) and pronounced. But right this very minute,
we're witnessing a tiny language shift before our very eyes, the
product of political correctness. Apparently, it is now acceptable in
many circles to use the pronoun "they" in place of "him or her." As
in "When someone comes into that building, they are often confused by
the signs in the lobby." When I was a kid that would have been a red
circle and the note in the margin, "Incorrect Antecedent."
>
> Language is pretty fascinating stuff, isn't it?
>
> Best,R.E.F.
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