Good point about WWII,
And as I believe, the changes (in language) during and after those times
did seem to be a progression...Not trying to be a dick in how I portray
my next comments, but I've spoken extensively to my father and my
grandfathers who experienced those times - there was a massive surge in
real patriotism. The whole nation was involved in the "war effort" -
industry changed, healthcare (as it was beginning), even right down to
an individuals personal daily regime...all was changed...yet I always
look upon this as progression...
Having experienced modern warfare (Op Herrick 8 - Afghanistan), there is
definately not the same upswelling of pride from the whole nation -
because we are a massively multicultural nation, so this is to be
expected - not everyone believes in the same thing....
this is something I think us Brits do envy our yankee friends over the
ocean...I have visited the states since 2008 and witnessed the support
that you and yours have for your troops - it's humbling....so, back on
topic...language...
Pug observed the stagnation of Tsurani (I forgot it was because they
were always focussed on war - more thwapping tonight I promise!) :P So
maybe my point is does the changes in language due to war/extreme
stress/survival move the race forward, rather than laziness to move it
backward becoz us britz cba to spel ryt? :P
Regards,
Drago
On 30/11/2011 7:00 PM, Elliott wrote:
Drago,
I'm 90% certain it was in Magician... Am wary of saying to much in
case it spoils the story for someone... it was close to "the games"
while talking to Hocho who immersed in the Tsurani culture didn't see
things the same way. (Hopes that is just enough to remind people
without spoiling it for anyone else).
It occurs to me of course that stagnation of a culture due to becoming
more war like doesn't mean there can't be changes to the language...
I'm thinking specifically of the UK in World War II... as a nation we
became more focused on war than some other more cultural pursuits,
many new word/slang came into general language to describe what was
happening around people.
Elliott
On 30/11/2011 18:49, Dragosani wrote:
Hi all,
This has cropped up recently in some other form for me in the last
few days so I may offer an observation....
Some other splendid bugger stated recently that languages do change
over time....and those that do not, simply stagnate (when I read this
I thought of Pug/Milamber talking about the stagnation of Tsurani -
art, music, culture etc - apologies cannot remember in which book it
was but I'll thwap myself to sleep tonight over this..erm, I
mean...*cough* Ok I digress....)
SO! :) This led me onto the change in English language (for us
Brits I think I would still say "spelled" Ray, but ridicule the Brits
that said it was "spelt") and the change this has undergone rapidly
since the explosion in mobile phones and texting...Teachers in
English schools unable to mark papers (or more PC - cannot mark down
papers that are written in txt speak)....So the english language
(especially for young-uns) has already undergone a rapid change...But
I see this change not as advancement of the species,
rather than more of a stagnation - because laziness is not learning
how to spell correctly and take shortcuts, is definately not moving
forward....
So where was I, and what was I aiming at - I have no idea....*takes
another swig of port* Languages...they do "progress" and change over
time - to reflect the ethos and general experience of that era - are
we heading for Dark Days in the UK? I think we're already
there :P
Regards,
Drago
