The Troy books  by David Gemmell are amazing!   Brilliantly finished off by 
Stella Gemmell.  Enduringly moving stuff and a good spin on the myth

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On 14 May 2013, at 12:50, "John Buttimer" <[email protected]> wrote:

> I live Druss's morals. I want to get his creed on a plaque for when I have 
> kids.  But skillion was the bet with his swords.  
> 
> John Buttimer 
> 
> On May 14, 2013, at 7:04 AM, Michael Hawksworth <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Most of the Drenia books are geared to that in one way or another but I 
>> don't think it is the core plot for the waylander/Sipstrassi(J.Shannow) 
>> books.  That said epic end battles in individual books are a norm of the 
>> genre and David didn't do the now standard trilogy format giving him chance 
>> for hanging book endings etc so if you have to end an epic quest a major 
>> valiant fight is better than most.
>> 
>> I would also say that the battle in Legend takes about 200+ pages on and off 
>> <G> and that it is the characters getting there that is the story not the 
>> end battle, and at least he is willing to kill off people. 
>> 
>> The Troy and greek series are bound by their outlines so are always going to 
>> be based on war which is probs why he picked them.
>> 
>> I was never a great fan of Druss and prefer characters like Decado and Pagan 
>> who are more interesting and the thirty are fun but by default have to fit 
>> into epic battle format.
>> 
>> I would say that there are over thirty books so most people will find 
>> something they like.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Brian Jones (Trancendance) 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I'm quite willing to be shown one of his books that doesn't have that basic 
>>> plot, but i have a significant proportion of them already :0p
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Windows Phone
>>> From: Marsh, Paul (CA-CIB)
>>> Sent: 14/05/2013 11:13
>>> 
>>> To: feistfans-l
>>> Subject: RE: In need of something new
>>> 
>>> Sacrilege, get back under your bridge troll and never show your face 
>>> again…………lol  tbh as much as I love his work  I have always seen his books 
>>> as 300 pages of build-up to massive battle of 4 million people etc.  that 
>>> is somehow concluded in 12 pages.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: [email protected] 
>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian Jones 
>>> (Trancendance)
>>> Sent: 14 May 2013 10:55
>>> To: feistfans-l
>>> Subject: RE: In need of something new
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I loved Gemmells stuff although it generally tended to go old guy, does 
>>> heroic stuff, meets nubile young lady, gets some, dies.
>>> 
>>> From: [email protected] 
>>> [[email protected]] on behalf of Marsh, Paul 
>>> (CA-CIB) [[email protected]]
>>> Sent: 14 May 2013 10:26
>>> To: feistfans-l
>>> Subject: RE: In need of something new
>>> 
>>> Wow fantastic response a few there that I have never heard of and some that 
>>> are a staples to the fantasy reader
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Gemmell = Legend/Waylander nuff said
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Steven Ericson:  I tried Gardens of the Moon but found it really hard going 
>>> so I put it down.  but I do hear good things about it all the time and that 
>>> Ian Cameron Esslemont’s Malazan stuff is better
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 40k Horus Heresy books are great Dan Abnett is especially good. I’m on book 
>>> 14
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Dragon Lance: dragons of autumn twilight was the first fantasy book I ever 
>>> read love them all. Thought they are Standard D&D fair along with forgotten 
>>> realms. not read the Death gate cycle but I do have them on my shelf
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Fred Saberhagen book of swords, I have read a few and liked them but they 
>>> are hard to get hold of
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Patrick Rothfuss never heard of so will give them a try
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Anne McCaffery never read any will give them a try
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Tom Lloyd:  loved the stormcaller but found twilight herald a hard slog 
>>> need to re-read that as I have the other sitting on my shelf.
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> Has anybody ever thought about starting book clubs? We have all read the 
>>> same stuff more or less and some of us must live in the same geographical 
>>> areas.  I live in UK Greenwich and work in Central London, anyone nearby 
>>> fancy meeting for a beer and discussing the finer points of fantasy 
>>> novels????
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> From: [email protected] 
>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ryan 
>>> Hosiassohn
>>> Sent: 14 May 2013 09:56
>>> To: feistfans-l
>>> Subject: Re: In need of something new
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Robert Jordan but he passed away unfortunately and haven't read his set 
>>> since the new person took over the wheel of time series.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Ryan Hosiassohn 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Kevin J Anderson is also good but hes more Sci-Fi
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Ryan Hosiassohn 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yeah I would say Steven Erikson or Terry Brooks
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Harv Barker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Can definitely recommend the Patrick Rothfuss books, Name of the Wind and 
>>> Wise Mans Fear, but only two in the series out so far. Loved them though.
>>> 
>>> H
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On 14 May 2013 09:24, Marsh, Paul (CA-CIB) <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> After the excitement of the book signings,  Meeting Ray and other fans and 
>>> Reading Magicians End, I find myself feeling a little down.  I’m in need of 
>>> something new.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Can anyone suggest other Authors / Sets of books that have a really fresh 
>>> twist to the fantasy genre.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Two such authors I have read recently that fit the bill are:
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> David Farland:  Rune Lords
>>> 
>>> Adrian Tchaikovsky: Shadow of the Apt
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> But I have exhausted their  books in print so need something else
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Please help
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Paul
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
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