I liked his even books in the series. 

As for orson Scott card his latter stuff is ok too. I liked the bean storyline. 

John Buttimer 

On May 15, 2013, at 7:28 AM, Scott Burchfield <[email protected]> 
wrote:

> I started reading Goodkind and stopped after two books. I found the 
> characters to be whiney and irritating.
> 
> On May 15, 2013 7:14 AM, "Ryan Hosiassohn" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Terry goodkind is also pretty good 
>> 
>> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Barbara Allison 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Yes Chris epic series. Being an illiterate kiwi, I had to keep large 
>>> version of Oxford Dictionary alongside. The description of Lord Foulsbane 
>>> absolutely dripped with malice & his malignity was palpable. There did I do 
>>> that OK?  I loved it, at times absolutely wanted to strangle Thomas 
>>> Covenant, but 'impotence has' its use.
>>> From: Christopher Grouse <[email protected]>
>>> To: feistfans-l <[email protected]> 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 15 May 2013 3:00 PM
>>> Subject: Re: In need of something new
>>> 
>>> Covenant s a legendary read! Tad heavy going in places, but the whole 
>>> series is epic!
>>> 
>>> Chris G
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> On 15 May 2013, at 01:42, "Barbara Allison" <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant - Stephen Donaldson - another of my 
>>>> favorites, the hero frustrates & angers hugeyl, may be difficult to begin 
>>>> but
>>>> 'endure' & keep a packet of tissues with you at end.
>>>> The Uplift series - David Brin also author of The Postman - Sci Fi but 
>>>> something for everyone in Startide Rising & The Uplift War
>>>> Nine Princes in Amber Series- Roger Zelazny
>>>> Songs of Earth & Power, (The Infinity Concerto & The Serpent Mage) - Greg 
>>>> Bear
>>>> Ringworld - Larry Niven
>>>> Lillith - 19th century author George McDonald a Scottish clergyman. You 
>>>> maybe surprised, I lent this copy to someone was very difficult to get 
>>>> hold of, but I see Amazon is stocking .
>>>>  
>>>> I am am not home by my library, but do have many more suggestions.
>>>> Barbara  
>>>> 
>>>> From: Dave Killingsworth <[email protected]>
>>>> To: feistfans-l <[email protected]> 
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 14 May 2013 10:12 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: In need of something new
>>>> 
>>>> Jordan is a great suggestion and the series is complete - it bogs a little 
>>>> in the middle and I have to say the kid that wrapped it up based on his 
>>>> notes had a great pacing and style that actually really lifts it up at the 
>>>> end
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 9:11 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Robert Jordan
>>>> large books...great read
>>>> 
>>>> also
>>>> 
>>>> Dragonlance
>>>> so many to chose from
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Dave Killingsworth <[email protected]>
>>>> To: feistfans-l <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Tue, May 14, 2013 10:09 am
>>>> Subject: Re: In need of something new
>>>> 
>>>> Yes  Anthony Xanth is fun popcorn candy reads
>>>> Adept series is good
>>>>  
>>>> Incarnations series is awesome.
>>>> Also suggest  Eddings  (Belgariad (5), Mallorean (5), Ellenium (3) and
>>>> Tamuli (3)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Michael Hawksworth
>>>> &mailto:lt%[email protected]&gt; wrote:
>>>> Peirs Anthony, although they do have blended in SciFi at times (besides
>>>> his SciFi works).
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 2:57 PM, L B &mailto:lt%[email protected]&gt; 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> How about L.E. Modesitt's Recluce series?
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On May 14, 2013, at 7:04 AM, Michael Hawksworth
>>>> &mailto:lt%[email protected]&gt; wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Most of the Drenia books are geared to that in one way or another but I
>>>> don't think it is the core plot for the waylander/Sipstrassi(J.Shannow)
>>>> books.  That said epic end battles in individual books are a norm of
>>>> the genre and David didn't do the now standard trilogy format giving
>>>> him chance for hanging book endings etc so if you have to end an epic
>>>> quest a major valiant fight is better than most.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I would also say that the battle in Legend takes about 200+ pages on
>>>> and off &lt;G&gt; and that it is the characters getting there that is
>>>> the story not the end battle, and at least he is willing to kill off
>>>> people. 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The Troy and greek series are bound by their outlines so are always
>>>> going to be based on war which is probs why he picked them.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I was never a great fan of Druss and prefer characters like Decado and
>>>> Pagan who are more interesting and the thirty are fun but by default
>>>> have to fit into epic battle format.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I would say that there are over thirty books so most people will find
>>>> something they like.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Brian Jones (Trancendance)
>>>> &mailto:lt%[email protected]&gt; wrote:
>>>> I'm quite willing to be shown one of his books that doesn't have that
>>>> basic plot, but i have a significant proportion of them already :0p
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my Windows Phone
>>>> 
>>>> From:Marsh, Paul (CA-CIB)
>>>> Sent:14/05/2013 11:13
>>>> To:feistfans-l
>>>> Subject:RE: In need of something new
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sacrilege, get back under your bridge troll and never show your face
>>>> again…………lol  tbh as much as I love his work  I have always seen his
>>>> books as 300 pages of build-up to massive battle of 4 million people
>>>> etc.  that is somehow concluded in 12 pages. From:
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Brian
>>>> Jones (Trancendance)
>>>> Sent: 14 May 2013 10:55
>>>> To: feistfans-l
>>>> Subject: RE: In need of something new
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> I loved Gemmells stuff although it generally tended to go old guy, does
>>>> heroic stuff, meets nubile young lady, gets some, dies.
>>>>  mailto:from%[email protected]
>>>> [[email protected]] on behalf of Marsh, Paul
>>>> (CA-CIB) [[email protected]]
>>>> Sent: 14 May 2013 10:26
>>>> To: feistfans-l
>>>> Subject: RE: In need of something new
>>>> Wow fantastic response a few there that I have never heard of and some
>>>> that are a staples to the fantasy reader  Gemmell = Legend/Waylander
>>>> nuff said Steven Ericson:  I tried Gardens of the Moon but found it
>>>> really hard going so I put it down.  but I do hear good things about it
>>>> all the time and thatIan Cameron Esslemont’s Malazan stuff is
>>>> better 40k Horus Heresy books are great Dan Abnett is especially good.
>>>> I’m on book 14 Dragon Lance: dragons of autumn twilight was the first
>>>> fantasy book I ever read love them all. Thought they are Standard D&D
>>>> fair along with forgotten realms. not read the Death gate cycle but I
>>>> do have them on my shelf Fred Saberhagen book of swords, I have read a
>>>> few and liked them but they are hard to get hold of Patrick Rothfuss
>>>> never heard of so will give them a try Anne McCaffery never read any
>>>> will give them a try Tom Lloyd:  loved the stormcaller but found
>>>> twilight herald a hard slog need to re-read that as I have the other
>>>> sitting on my shelf.   Has anybody ever thought about starting book
>>>> clubs? We have all read the same stuff more or less and some of us must
>>>> live in the same geographical areas.  I live in UK Greenwich and work
>>>> in Central London, anyone nearby fancy meeting for a beer and
>>>> discussing the finer points of fantasy
>>>> novels????         mailto:from%[email protected]
>>>> [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Ryan
>>>> Hosiassohn
>>>> Sent: 14 May 2013 09:56
>>>> To: feistfans-l
>>>> Subject: Re: In need of something new Robert Jordan but he passed away
>>>> unfortunately and haven't read his set since the new person took over
>>>> the wheel of time series.On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Ryan
>>>> Hosiassohn &mailto:lt%[email protected]&gt; wrote:Kevin J 
>>>> Anderson is
>>>> also good but hes more Sci-Fi On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Ryan
>>>> Hosiassohn &mailto:lt%[email protected]&gt; wrote:Yeah I would say
>>>> Steven Erikson or Terry Brooks On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Harv
>>>> Barker &mailto:lt%[email protected]&gt; wrote:Can definitely recommend 
>>>> the
>>>> Patrick Rothfuss books, Name of the Wind and Wise Mans Fear, but only
>>>> two in the series out so far. Loved them though.
>>>> 
>>>> H
>>>>  On 14 May 2013 09:24, Marsh, Paul (CA-CIB)
>>>> &mailto:lt%[email protected]&gt; wrote:After the excitement of the 
>>>> book
>>>> signings,  Meeting Ray and other fans and Reading Magicians End, I find
>>>> myself feeling a little down.  I’m in need of something new. Can anyone
>>>> suggest other Authors / Sets of books that have a really fresh twist to
>>>> the fantasy genre. Two such authors I have read recently that fit the
>>>> bill are: David Farland:  Rune LordsAdrian Tchaikovsky: Shadow of the
>>>> Apt But I have exhausted their  books in print so need something
>>>> else Please help Cheers Paul  
>>>> 
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