Re: Please read this response!! URGENT:DO NOT USE-KittyKind -CAT RESCUE-in Orange, NJ]

[Cherie A Gabbert]

We are all working towards happy home life solutions for all our furry friends. That is why I think she should not be able to come near animals and care giving.

Cherie

"Gloria B. Lane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Well, I think that punishment is certainly not a solution, and I'm not sure
without knowing her if psych help is called for. But helping her find
solutions to her animal problem would help, and in general a better system
of dealing with the animal problem would solve a lot of problems.

It's just too easy to sweep the problem under the rug, and assume that all
solutions to the animal problem are going to be Pollyanna-type happy home
life solutions (which they're not).

Gloria



At 12:39 PM 5/24/2005, you wrote:
>I totally agree with you Tamara!!
>
>Mia
>
>tamara stickler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>I agree with Tad. Punishment does very little to solve the
>problem...helping her to find another solution...would seem more
>reasonable. But I'd go a step farther, she would work at the shelter, but
>not handle money or be a major decision maker...she needs to learn, not
>lead at this point. Plus, a little psycological help is prob. needed tooT
>
>Cherie A Gabbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>That is being to kind, she needs to be put in jail and given her just
>deserts, how would you feel if she had sick and healthy kids in one room,
>and their bodies in the back yard in bags because she could not afford
>creamation.....animals and kids need us more than any one else, they can
>not defend themselves, they need our guidance and they trust us to give it
>to them.
>Cherie
>
>Tad Burnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>I am going to agree with Mia...If you believe in "Its the thought that
>counts" I believe the woman wanted to save the cats...However "You can't
>save them all"...Some people have a hard time understanding this....And
>most people don't have any idea how many cats are PTS every day becouse
>there is no body to care for them...
>The woman does need some help...guidance of one sort or another...
>Instead of spending the thousands of dollars that it would cost to put
>her in jail maybe we could use her knowledge to run a large no kill
>shelter with some funding to pay for disposal and food etc and sentance
>her to stay there an put in a days work..If it should turn out that she
>enjoys that work than so be it but doesn't that make more sense than
>just locking her up....
>
>Tad
>
>Cherie A Gabbert wrote:
>
> > That is no excuse...I am appauld that anyone would stand up for this
> > individual, she deserves the same treatment she has giving her
> > supposed "furry friends", If she treats her friends this way I would
> > hate to be her enemy. I am utterly speechless that anyone would stand
> > up for her and her organization, I say the volunteers should open a
> > shelter themselves and Kess should go to jail. KittyKind Ha that is a
> > laugh, like the roach motel they check in and never check out...I am
> > sick over this I would like to meet her in a dark alley.
> >
> > Sorry...usually I am more gentle that this...I am just so shocked and
> > disgusted.
> > Cherie
> >
> >
> > Mia Nicer wrote:
> >
> > Hi everyone!! My name is Mia and I am a fellow rescuer in the New
> > York, New Jersey and Conn. area. I am not making an excuse for
> > Marlene from Kitty Kind nor am I happy with the situation in which
> > she has put the Kitty Kind organization but, I do know about and I
> > am very familiar with this rescue group since it is in my area. I
> > am not apart of this organization but please listen to what I have
> > to say about it:
> >
> > This situation is extremely horrible and very unfortunate but in
> > the end it will be this rescue group and the kitties that suffer.
> > Please do not make it any harder for these cats to get adopted.
> > This group has lots of volunteers and fosters who put in all their
> > free time to help some of these and their own cats and have
> > nothing to do with this situation nor did they know anything about
> > it. I believe that the overflow is what led Marlene to this
> > situation, again I am not making an excuse for anyone but please
> > do not punish the many volunteers, fosters and kitties for this.
> > There are so many kitties in need of a home and by making it
> > harder for them to get their cats adopted out doesn't help anyone.
> >
> >
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > DNA - Marlene Kess & Kitty Kind Rescue, East Orange, NJ.
> > Hundreds of dead cats found in yard.
> >
> >
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: DO NOT USE-KittyKind -CAT RESCUE-in Orange, NJ
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 12:19:35 -0400
> >
> > Hundreds of dead cats found in woman's yard
> > E. Orange resident operates rescue agency
> > Friday, May 20, 2005
> > BY BRIAN T. MURRAY AND KASI ADDISON
> > Star-Ledger Staff
> > Over two decades, Marlene Kess built a reputation in Manhattan
> > as a
> > caregiver of last resort for homeless and dying cats. If her
> > rescue and
> > adoption agency, KittyKind, couldn't place a sick animal, she
> > took it home
> > herself, overseeing its recuperation or caring for it until
> > its death.
> > Yesterday, authorities discovered what Kess' philosophy looked
> > like in
> > practice. Summoned to the woman's East Orange home by a
> > neighbor complaining
> > about a stench, city health inspectors found 48 cats inside
> > the house -- 38
> > of them in one room -- and more than 200 dead cats stuffed
> > into garbage bags
> > in the back yard.
> > The sight of so many decomposing corpses -- and the fetid odor
> > they
> > produced -- sickened animal-welfare officers and others who
> > responded to the
> > two-story home on State Street.
> > "Oh my God, it was awful," said Michael Fowler of the
> > Associated Humane
> > Societies, the state's largest shelter group. "The smell was
> > horrible."
> > Kess -- the 56-year-old founder and executive director of
> > KittyKind, which
> > operates one of New York City's few no-kill shelters -- moved
> > to East Orange
> > from Manhattan in July. Dozens of cats, apparently, moved with
> > her. More
> > arrived while she was there.
> > "She claims that she takes in sick cats -- cats with feline
> > leukemia -- and
> > that she is a known rescuer who people will bring their cats
> > to when they're
> > dying," said Sgt. Joseph Bierman of the New Jersey Society for the
> > Prevention of Cruelty to Animals.
> > When those cats did die, they went into large, heavy-duty
> > garbage bags. Then
> > they went into the yard, which backs to a parking lot used by
> > the East
> > Orange Board of Education and the East Orange Community
> > Charter School.
> > Bierman said he counted 21 garbage bags, each containing 10 or
> > more
> > vermin-infested carcasses. In some cases, he said, the cats
> > had become so
> > decomposed a precise number of bodies could not be determined.
> > Kess had been
> > placing dead cats in the yard since she moved in, Bierman said.
> > "I haven't seen anything quite like this," Bierman said.
> > "Certainly it's an
> > unusual incident."
> > Kess, seen arguing with animal-welfare officials outside the
> > home, declined
> > to comment.
> > She was cited for several East Orange health code violations,
> > among them
> > keeping an unlawful number of animals, harboring dead animals
> > and creating a
> > potential environmental hazard by keeping the corpses on her
> > property, city
> > sanitary inspector Frank Habegger said last night.
> > In addition, the SPCA charged her with 38 counts of failing to
> > properly
> > shelter cats. The counts stem from the cats being locked
> > together in a front
> > room. Some of the cats were healthy, while others were ill.
> > Under state
> > regulations, anyone keeping large numbers of animals must
> > separate the sick
> > from the healthy.
> > Ten other healthy cats were roaming free in the house.
> > Both investigations were continuing. This morning, public
> > works crews were
> > expected to remove the carcasses from the back yard, and
> > necropsies were to
> > be performed on some of the animals to determine a cause of
> > death, said
> > Darryl Jeffries, a city spokesman.
> > Kess was allowed to keep the 48 living cats in her home
> > because she said she
> > would separate the sick and healthy animals, Bierman said.
> > SPCA officers
> > were planning to return to the home to ensure she does, he said.
> > She apparently planned to bury the corpse-laden garbage bags
> > in a large hole
> > that had been recently dug in the back yard, Bierman said.
> > "It was almost like a grave," he said, describing it as about
> > 5 feet deep
> > and 7 feet wide. Kess told investigators she planned to plant
> > a tree in the
> > spot but hadn't yet gotten around to buying one, Bierman said.
> > A handyman
> > employed by Kess told investigators he dug the hole for a
> > pool, the
> > investigator said.
> > Kess is well-known in cat rescue circles in Manhattan, where
> > KittyKind
> > operates a shelter within a Petco at Union Square. A longtime
> > resident of
> > Greenwich Village, she has been quoted frequently in small
> > community
> > newspapers about her efforts -- and struggles -- to care for
> > cats that
> > nobody else wants.
> > "Animal overpopulation is a big problem," she told one
> > community newspaper,
> > the New York Resident, in 2002. "People are very irresponsible."
> > Despite the difficulty placing cats, she has criticized New
> > York City's high
> > euthanasia rate, and she has championed the idea of seeing
> > cats through even
> > terminal illnesses.
> > Not all animal-welfare advocates agree with that philosophy.
> > "There are some things worse than death for animals,
> > especially when they
> > are sick and people are trying to needlessly extend their
> > lives because they
> > want to save every animal," said Roseanne Trezza, executive
> > director of the
> > Associated Humane Societies. "They refuse to recognize that we
> > simply can't
> > save them all, no matter how much we all care for these
> > creatures, and no
> > matter how much it hurts to euthanize them."
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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Cherie