Hi Hideyo, I will be picking her up today and ask the vet about fatty liver.
The kittens also have really bad diarrhea and are on albon. I am going to ask him if I can give them some pedialyte to prevent dehydration. Could I give Kitty pedialyte? I don't know if she has dehydration though - she drinks ALOT - which is why they are thinking diabetes. Kelley On 4/11/07, Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi, Kelley - she vomits because she feels nauseated when the food is put in her mouth and she is nauseated because of her liver problem and it's a common sytmpoms for liver problems. Liver has a great recoupbability to recover, however, early treatment is very critical.. once a cat becomes jaundiced, you will risk losing the kitty.. that's how I lost mine. Again, IV is critical right now -- you cannot afford her to be dehydrated.. and IV will help flush toxins and bile out from the liver and will make her feel better - there are pepcid injection that you can give her from feeling nauseated -- but please please ask you vet to give her IV -- as Wendy says it's a very serious condition. I will be praying for Joey and Kitty's recovery. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 8:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: More info on Joey Not yet. She is at the vet tonight. They could not get urine today. So they are going to get urine, and they syringe fed her for today. I do syringe feed her, but she vomits it up about half the time. I think if she does not have diabetes, then they will run a thyroid. He is ruling out one thing at a time. On 4/11/07, Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think it's her liver -- is she on IV? I would ask the vet to give her > IV and flush it out and it's very very important to you syringe feed > her --it might be the beginning of fatty liver disease as she was a > pretty good size kitty before she lost weight.. Get SAMe from the health > food store right away and give 100 mg or so to her every day and also > milk thisle (herb) - I use non alcohol tincture type .. TBIL is also > high normal range -that means she has a bit of bile duct problem.. > thought it's not that bad right now.. IV will really help her - I lost > more than a couple of kitties to liver disease as I did not notice the > problem right away.. but kitty's liver function is not that bad > according to blood -- did they not run thyroid test to rule out any > thyroid problem? > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 6:29 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: More info on Joey > > Yes, Kitty's bloodwork (they called her Kitty for 12 years so who am I > to change it). > > ALB 3.0 > ALKP 294 > ALT 78 > AMYL 849 > BUN 39 > CA 10.6 > CHOL 155 > CREA 1.1 > GLOB 6.0 > GLU 171 > PHOS 5.6 > TBIL 0.3 > TP 9.0 > > He has written hypothyroidism, chronic hepatitis, lipiodosis, and some > other stuf I can't read. > > WBC 16.09 > LYM 0.93 > MONO 2.39 > NEU 12.28 > EOS 0.40 > BASO 0.10 > HCT 35.4 > RBC 7.43 > HGB 14.7 > HGH 14.7 > RETIC 26.9 > MCV 47.6 > RDW 20.1 > MCH 19.79 > PLT 517 > MPV 11.26 > > PCT 0.6 > PDW 23.0 > > > > > On 4/11/07, Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Could you post your female kitty's blood work anyway? > > > > Your vet may not have much experience with FIP if he did not say > > anything about it by looking at the blood work - and lots of vets > don't > > know how to look at the blood result for FIP illness. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo > > Yamamoto > > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 4:15 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: More info on Joey > > > > You might also want to start giving him a sub Q fluid (may be every > > other day - like 100 cc??) as some of his kidney values are high > normal > > range - > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo > > Yamamoto > > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 4:10 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: More info on Joey > > > > Do you have bilburin values? Did THL mean TBL? > > His TP/Gloub is very high? Did he get tested for the corona virus > > titers? I am a bit concerned that this mimics some of the blood work > > from the kitties I lost to FIP (anemia, high globulin and low ALB and > > high AMYL), but he is not a young kitty -but I would ask for the > corona > > virus titer just to see what it is though there is no definitive > answers > > on it either -- I have lots of kitties with high corona titer who > don't > > have FIP, and lower titer and have had FIP.. but trying to eliminate > > what we can eliminate. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley > Saveika > > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 3:49 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: More info on Joey > > > > Ok, here is his other bloodwork. > > > > ALB 2.5 > > ALKP 25 > > ALT 43 > > AMYL 1743 > > BUN 48 > > CA 9.8 > > CHOL 209 > > CREA 1.5 > > GLOB 7.5 > > GLU 146 > > PHOS 5.4 > > THL 0.7 > > TP 10.1 > > > > I had Blood Chemistry and CBC on his female buddy done...I have the > > result in the car but they are inconclusive. So we are waiting for > > urine to see if it is diabetes or not. > > > > On 4/11/07, Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I am sorry, I did not minimize your concerns by any means --- since > my > > > household is always lots of kaos, my standard is probably off -- > Lots > > of > > > my kitties have had anemia problems and it can be a life > threatening, > > I > > > lost 6 kitties to anemia during the past several months already, so > I > > > know that it's not to be taken light.. but I also wanted you to > > remember > > > his clinical behavioral conditions as it's most important thing of > all > > > to consider. > > > > > > I really do suggest thought, Kelley, have the blood work done for > > > everything, and also female buddy kitty to run all the blood work as > > > well -- urine samples will tell lots of stuff, but not as much as > the > > > blood work can tell and to what degree (i.e. kidney problems.. etc) > -- > > > please keep me posted. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley > > Saveika > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 3:31 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: More info on Joey > > > > > > Hi Hideyo, > > > > > > He for sure has anemia. He may have cancer - we cant' tell until I > > > save $ for sonogram. He has an ulcerated area on his tongue that > has > > > my vet concerned. He is worried about the possibility of FELV.That > is > > > a lot of stuff for one cat to have wrong. > > > > > > The female buddy he came in with may have diabetes. He is keeping > her > > > overnight to get a urine sample. She is not eating at all. Most of > > > her blood values are WNL. She's very sick, I know that. She's lost > 7 > > > lb in 2 month out of 17.2 lbs. She had URI so I treated that and > she > > > got better from that..but she kept not eating. I syringe her but > > > sometimes she throws it back up. > > > > > > On 4/11/07, Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > He looks sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo cute!! > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley > > > Saveika > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 11:26 AM > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: Re: More info on Joey > > > > > > > > His spinal cord. He does not look so skinny, though. Here is his > > > > picture from 2 nights ago: > > > > > > > > http://rescuties.rescuegroups.org/images/dynapage/s689dpi7.jpg > > > > > > > > On 4/11/07, Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree also - if he is dehydrated, it will also impact the > weight > > - > > > > how is > > > > > he losing weight? What portion does he look skinny? On the > > spinal > > > > cord > > > > > area? Or all over? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > > > > elizabeth trent > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 11:15 AM > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Subject: Re: More info on Joey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I bet you are exactly right about why he isn't eating as much. > Is > > > he > > > > > drinking plenty of water? Maybe he would like some of the fancy > > > feast > > > > that > > > > > is just in the plain 'pate' form?...or maybe some baby food? > > Bless > > > > his > > > > > little heart. Please pat him on the head for me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > elizabeth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/11/07, Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He is eating some, but not as much as last week. > > > > > > > > > > The doctor says the lesion on his tongue could be from FELV? or > > it > > > > > could be from me giving him the pills..if they are staying on > his > > > > > tongue too long... > > > > > > > > > > He says it is not an infection. If it does not go away he wants > > to > > > > biopsy > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > I am thinking maybe when he eats it hurts his tongue, so he > > doesn't > > > > > want to eat as much. I'm very disappointed he lost weight as he > > was > > > > > steadily regaining. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/11/07, Hideyo Yamamoto > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > > > Is he not eating at all? What is his eating habit right now? > > Not > > > > all > > > > > > cats will throw up, you really have to evaluate it > individually > > as > > > > none > > > > > > of my cat I syringed fed never never threw up (some did not > like > > > me > > > > > > doing it..) > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > > > > > Of Kelley Saveika > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 9:03 AM > > > > > > To: felvtalk > > > > > > Subject: More info on Joey > > > > > > > > > > > > Joey has lost 3 ounces of the 7 ounces he previously regained. > > > The > > > > > > vet says for me to not syringe feed him because if I force him > > to > > > > eat > > > > > > when he doesn't want to it will just make him throw up and > make > > > him > > > > > > sickly. So do yall have any suggestions for convincing him to > > > eat? > > > > > > He seems to like all food equally. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.rescuties.org > > > > > > > > > > > > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! > > > > > > > > > > > > http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 > > > > > > > > > > > > Please help Joey! > > > > > > > > > > > http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. > > > > > > > > > > http://www.rescuties.org > > > > > > > > > > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! > > > > > > > > > > http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 > > > > > > > > > > Please help Joey! > > > > > http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. > > > > > > > > http://www.rescuties.org > > > > > > > > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! > > > > > > > > http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 > > > > > > > > Please help Joey! > > > > http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. > > > > > > http://www.rescuties.org > > > > > > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! > > > > > > http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 > > > > > > Please help Joey! > > > http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. > > > > http://www.rescuties.org > > > > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! > > > > http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 > > > > Please help Joey! > > http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. > > http://www.rescuties.org > > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! > > http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 > > Please help Joey! > http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia > > > > > > -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia
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