A kitty with liver disease (in the beginning stage) also drinks lots of water, or at least mine did.. I don't know why they still think it's diabetes when the blood work shows it's not - do you know? You might want to ask them.
You could give kitty pedilyte - but it will be better if you can give them subq- with a syringe as they dehydrate so quickly and giving them orally sometimes is not enough water to compensate the loss-- and hydration becomes critical for a kitten more than so for a adult kitty. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 6:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: More info on Joey Hi Hideyo, I will be picking her up today and ask the vet about fatty liver. The kittens also have really bad diarrhea and are on albon. I am going to ask him if I can give them some pedialyte to prevent dehydration. Could I give Kitty pedialyte? I don't know if she has dehydration though - she drinks ALOT - which is why they are thinking diabetes. Kelley On 4/11/07, Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, Kelley - she vomits because she feels nauseated when the food is put > in her mouth and she is nauseated because of her liver problem and it's > a common sytmpoms for liver problems. Liver has a great recoupbability > to recover, however, early treatment is very critical.. once a cat > becomes jaundiced, you will risk losing the kitty.. that's how I lost > mine. > > Again, IV is critical right now -- you cannot afford her to be > dehydrated.. and IV will help flush toxins and bile out from the liver > and will make her feel better - there are pepcid injection that you can > give her from feeling nauseated -- but please please ask you vet to give > her IV -- as Wendy says it's a very serious condition. > > I will be praying for Joey and Kitty's recovery. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 8:56 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: More info on Joey > > Not yet. She is at the vet tonight. They could not get urine today. > So they are going to get urine, and they syringe fed her for today. > > I do syringe feed her, but she vomits it up about half the time. > > I think if she does not have diabetes, then they will run a thyroid. > He is ruling out one thing at a time. > > On 4/11/07, Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think it's her liver -- is she on IV? I would ask the vet to give > her > > IV and flush it out and it's very very important to you syringe feed > > her --it might be the beginning of fatty liver disease as she was a > > pretty good size kitty before she lost weight.. Get SAMe from the > health > > food store right away and give 100 mg or so to her every day and also > > milk thisle (herb) - I use non alcohol tincture type .. TBIL is also > > high normal range -that means she has a bit of bile duct problem.. > > thought it's not that bad right now.. IV will really help her - I lost > > more than a couple of kitties to liver disease as I did not notice the > > problem right away.. but kitty's liver function is not that bad > > according to blood -- did they not run thyroid test to rule out any > > thyroid problem? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley > Saveika > > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 6:29 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: More info on Joey > > > > Yes, Kitty's bloodwork (they called her Kitty for 12 years so who am I > > to change it). > > > > ALB 3.0 > > ALKP 294 > > ALT 78 > > AMYL 849 > > BUN 39 > > CA 10.6 > > CHOL 155 > > CREA 1.1 > > GLOB 6.0 > > GLU 171 > > PHOS 5.6 > > TBIL 0.3 > > TP 9.0 > > > > He has written hypothyroidism, chronic hepatitis, lipiodosis, and some > > other stuf I can't read. > > > > WBC 16.09 > > LYM 0.93 > > MONO 2.39 > > NEU 12.28 > > EOS 0.40 > > BASO 0.10 > > HCT 35.4 > > RBC 7.43 > > HGB 14.7 > > HGH 14.7 > > RETIC 26.9 > > MCV 47.6 > > RDW 20.1 > > MCH 19.79 > > PLT 517 > > MPV 11.26 > > > > PCT 0.6 > > PDW 23.0 > > > > > > > > > > On 4/11/07, Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Could you post your female kitty's blood work anyway? > > > > > > Your vet may not have much experience with FIP if he did not say > > > anything about it by looking at the blood work - and lots of vets > > don't > > > know how to look at the blood result for FIP illness. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo > > > Yamamoto > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 4:15 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: RE: More info on Joey > > > > > > You might also want to start giving him a sub Q fluid (may be every > > > other day - like 100 cc??) as some of his kidney values are high > > normal > > > range - > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo > > > Yamamoto > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 4:10 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: RE: More info on Joey > > > > > > Do you have bilburin values? Did THL mean TBL? > > > His TP/Gloub is very high? Did he get tested for the corona virus > > > titers? I am a bit concerned that this mimics some of the blood > work > > > from the kitties I lost to FIP (anemia, high globulin and low ALB > and > > > high AMYL), but he is not a young kitty -but I would ask for the > > corona > > > virus titer just to see what it is though there is no definitive > > answers > > > on it either -- I have lots of kitties with high corona titer who > > don't > > > have FIP, and lower titer and have had FIP.. but trying to eliminate > > > what we can eliminate. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley > > Saveika > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 3:49 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: More info on Joey > > > > > > Ok, here is his other bloodwork. > > > > > > ALB 2.5 > > > ALKP 25 > > > ALT 43 > > > AMYL 1743 > > > BUN 48 > > > CA 9.8 > > > CHOL 209 > > > CREA 1.5 > > > GLOB 7.5 > > > GLU 146 > > > PHOS 5.4 > > > THL 0.7 > > > TP 10.1 > > > > > > I had Blood Chemistry and CBC on his female buddy done...I have the > > > result in the car but they are inconclusive. So we are waiting for > > > urine to see if it is diabetes or not. > > > > > > On 4/11/07, Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > I am sorry, I did not minimize your concerns by any means --- > since > > my > > > > household is always lots of kaos, my standard is probably off -- > > Lots > > > of > > > > my kitties have had anemia problems and it can be a life > > threatening, > > > I > > > > lost 6 kitties to anemia during the past several months already, > so > > I > > > > know that it's not to be taken light.. but I also wanted you to > > > remember > > > > his clinical behavioral conditions as it's most important thing of > > all > > > > to consider. > > > > > > > > I really do suggest thought, Kelley, have the blood work done for > > > > everything, and also female buddy kitty to run all the blood work > as > > > > well -- urine samples will tell lots of stuff, but not as much as > > the > > > > blood work can tell and to what degree (i.e. kidney problems.. > etc) > > -- > > > > please keep me posted. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley > > > Saveika > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 3:31 PM > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: Re: More info on Joey > > > > > > > > Hi Hideyo, > > > > > > > > He for sure has anemia. He may have cancer - we cant' tell until > I > > > > save $ for sonogram. He has an ulcerated area on his tongue that > > has > > > > my vet concerned. He is worried about the possibility of > FELV.That > > is > > > > a lot of stuff for one cat to have wrong. > > > > > > > > The female buddy he came in with may have diabetes. He is keeping > > her > > > > overnight to get a urine sample. She is not eating at all. Most > of > > > > her blood values are WNL. She's very sick, I know that. She's > lost > > 7 > > > > lb in 2 month out of 17.2 lbs. She had URI so I treated that and > > she > > > > got better from that..but she kept not eating. I syringe her but > > > > sometimes she throws it back up. > > > > > > > > On 4/11/07, Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > He looks sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo cute!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley > > > > Saveika > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 11:26 AM > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Subject: Re: More info on Joey > > > > > > > > > > His spinal cord. He does not look so skinny, though. Here is > his > > > > > picture from 2 nights ago: > > > > > > > > > > http://rescuties.rescuegroups.org/images/dynapage/s689dpi7.jpg > > > > > > > > > > On 4/11/07, Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree also - if he is dehydrated, it will also impact the > > weight > > > - > > > > > how is > > > > > > he losing weight? What portion does he look skinny? On the > > > spinal > > > > > cord > > > > > > area? Or all over? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > > > > > elizabeth trent > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 11:15 AM > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Subject: Re: More info on Joey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I bet you are exactly right about why he isn't eating as much. > > Is > > > > he > > > > > > drinking plenty of water? Maybe he would like some of the > fancy > > > > feast > > > > > that > > > > > > is just in the plain 'pate' form?...or maybe some baby food? > > > Bless > > > > > his > > > > > > little heart. Please pat him on the head for me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > elizabeth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/11/07, Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He is eating some, but not as much as last week. > > > > > > > > > > > > The doctor says the lesion on his tongue could be from FELV? > or > > > it > > > > > > could be from me giving him the pills..if they are staying on > > his > > > > > > tongue too long... > > > > > > > > > > > > He says it is not an infection. If it does not go away he > wants > > > to > > > > > biopsy > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am thinking maybe when he eats it hurts his tongue, so he > > > doesn't > > > > > > want to eat as much. I'm very disappointed he lost weight as > he > > > was > > > > > > steadily regaining. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/11/07, Hideyo Yamamoto > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > > > > Is he not eating at all? What is his eating habit right now? > > > Not > > > > > all > > > > > > > cats will throw up, you really have to evaluate it > > individually > > > as > > > > > none > > > > > > > of my cat I syringed fed never never threw up (some did not > > like > > > > me > > > > > > > doing it..) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > > > > > > Of Kelley Saveika > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 9:03 AM > > > > > > > To: felvtalk > > > > > > > Subject: More info on Joey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Joey has lost 3 ounces of the 7 ounces he previously > regained. > > > > The > > > > > > > vet says for me to not syringe feed him because if I force > him > > > to > > > > > eat > > > > > > > when he doesn't want to it will just make him throw up and > > make > > > > him > > > > > > > sickly. So do yall have any suggestions for convincing him > to > > > > eat? > > > > > > > He seems to like all food equally. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.rescuties.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please help Joey! > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.rescuties.org > > > > > > > > > > > > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! > > > > > > > > > > > > http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 > > > > > > > > > > > > Please help Joey! > > > > > > http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. > > > > > > > > > > http://www.rescuties.org > > > > > > > > > > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! > > > > > > > > > > http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 > > > > > > > > > > Please help Joey! > > > > > http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. > > > > > > > > http://www.rescuties.org > > > > > > > > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! > > > > > > > > http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 > > > > > > > > Please help Joey! > > > > http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. > > > > > > http://www.rescuties.org > > > > > > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! > > > > > > http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 > > > > > > Please help Joey! > > > http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. > > > > http://www.rescuties.org > > > > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! > > > > http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 > > > > Please help Joey! > > http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. > > http://www.rescuties.org > > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! > > http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 > > Please help Joey! > http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia > > > > > -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia
