I'm not sure if your cats go outside. Mine don't, and I have never even
considered putting a collar on them. I never really thought about the health
risks (like choking), but I knew my kitties would absolutely despise
collars. Plus, with the tags jingling, they'd never be able to sneak up on
each other (or us). I know there is a risk of them escaping when we go in
and out, but really they haven't tried to run outside in at least a year. I
guess it's a difficult subject to decide on. Yes, we've had emergencies
where the door was left open and they got out, but we live in such a small
town (without animal control, per se), that I think the benefits outweigh
the risks in my case. Sorry I'm not much help!





[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 3:22 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: OT: How to Keep Tags on Your cat???


Chris's post below sparked a question I have.  I have a couple of cats that
constantly lose their collars.  Any ideas on how to get them to keep them
on?  I always use break-aways because I'm afraid of my cat hanging
themselves on something.  In fact, our 6 lb. Julie the other day, came and
woke me up wearing her collar like a girdle, because I hadn't tightened it
up very much (new collar), and she got her paw through it and the break away
didn't give (it didn't need to; too much room still).  It was funny, but
kinda scary.  Anyone have any ideas?




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----- Original Message ----
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 10:54:56 AM
Subject: RE: Update on Malnourished, Rescue cat

If this cat has been out there a long time, it is possible they no longer
live there.  I hate to be the voice of dissent, but I've been through this
for 2 years now-there are sooo many reasons why a cat was lost.  Nobody
would ever dump a cat with a collar & tags!  Actually, it's a pretty
responsible thing to put collar and tags on a cat that goes outside-most
people don't cause cats are notorious for pulling them off.  If this is as
sweet a cat as you describe him, somebody's got to be missing him.  Call
them-feel them out. bet you'll be surprised!


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Caroline Kaufmann
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 11:08 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Update on Malnourished, Rescue cat


Oh my god!  Now I know why I post my lengthy stories to you guys (more than
just venting)!  Everyone has made such wonderful suggestions- I really
appreciate it.  We have the owners address so this is what I will suggest to
my mom that we do.  That way, we can make the owners come to us!  We can
make a flyer tonight and post it on their street.  Ironically, they live
near the neighborhood I grew up in in Louisville and the street was on my
school bus route, so my mom and I are very familiar.  I'm excited now!  I
think this is the best way to "test" the owners!   

Thanks everyone!




From: wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Update on Malnourished, Rescue cat
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 07:37:32 -0700 (PDT)

You could post a flyer right on their mailbox and every other mailbox in the
neighborhood, stating that the cat was found, with some description and that
further description and payment of vet bill would be required to receive
kitty back.  I'd leave off the amount.  Good ideas Melissa!

"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change
the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!"     ~~~ Margaret
Meade ~~~


----- Original Message ----
From: Melissa Lind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 8:36:35 AM
Subject: RE: Update on Malnourished, Rescue cat



I think it's great what you are doing! I'm very happy that your mom is
getting on board with it! I know my family admires (even though they may not
understand) my compassion for animals, but getting them to help, even
reluctantly, is something I haven't been able to do as of late. Good for


As for the owner-issue, with my rescued cats back in April, I advertised
them as found cats (without description), and stated that the owners must
describe the cat and pay the vet bill. I thought that if they really loved
their kitty that they would do anything to get it back-no matter the cost.
And if they couldn't afford it, then they would at least try their hardest
to convince me that they deserved the kitty back even if they couldn't pay.
I did not think this was out of line at all, and of course, as my husband
predicted, no one came forward to claim the kitties. I knew that one was a
stray (lived out of a dumpster) and the other might have been a back-door
feeder but was severely neglected. 


If I understand correctly (I've been reading stories very quickly), you have
the contact info of the owners? I would get kitty all fixed up nice-then let
them know the bill. If they love kitty, they'll pay (or at least try).


I'm very happy for you guys-especially at your abilities to get lowered vet
bills-way to go!!!





[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Caroline Kaufmann
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 3:29 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: OT: Update on Malnourished, Rescue cat


My mom took the cat we rescued Sat. to her regular vet today.  I couldn't
get a hold of my Shamrock contact (she lost her cell phone in the bushes
somewhere crawling around doing a kitten rescue- typical- this explains why
I couldn't get a hold of her!).  My mom was just really frustrated and felt
she couldn't wait on Shamrock or anyone of those groups to help us get the
cat into a vet that would treat her half price/discounted.  She wanted to
make sure we were dealing only with malnutrition and an upper respiratory
infection.  She ended up seeing a relief vet and my mom says she spent the
first 15 mins arguing with the vet over what the cat needed, what they
were/weren't going to do to her, and finding the owner.  The vet pressured
my mom into calling the vet number listed on the rabies tag AGAIN- even
though we never heard from him and know that he has other clinics that are
open in Louisville- well, when she called, she got a live person!  That
person looked up the rabies tag and gave my mom the "owner" information, so
we have that now.  The cat's "name" is "Nosey"...I mean..., I don't
know....your alls' guesses are as good as mine...that's all I will say about

My mom bargained down the vet and since she now had the owner info, I guess
the dr. let her off the hook as far as not doing EVERYTHING that a vet would
usually do with a rescued cat.  They did a fecal and surprisingly, she
doesn't have worms.  Although, she could still have tape worms since I found
a live flea on her- but we are going to wait on that.  I can always get a
tapeworm pill from Shamrock if I need to.  She weighs 5 lbs, 5
ounces!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I told you she was malnourished!!!!!  The vet had
trouble aging her and guessed 5 years.  I think she's a little off there--
she has tarter on her teeth, but not tons and she has no grey tarter- just
the yellow, so I think she's younger than 5, but over 2 years.  I think the
vet's being thrown off by the malnourishment.  

She sneezed for the vet, so she's putting her on oral clavamox.
Surprisingly, the vet said everything we've been doing for her is right and
then some...we wrote out a list that included everything- the colostrum,
food, etc., which my mom handed to the vet when she walked in.  So I guess
we know more of what we are doing than we thought.  AND my usually reluctant
to do "rescues" mother has even said that she is "willing to do more of
this" as long as she has the resources set up ahead of time- meaning, ready
access to a vet, if vet care is needed, that will treat a rescue cat for a
discount!  She got out of there with a $59 bill.  

As for calling the owner, we are in no rush.  My mom still has major
concerns based on how tight the collar was on the cat- so tight it rubbed
the fur off, if she was supposed to be an outside cat or indoor/outdoor cat-
why isn't she micro chipped, and she did end up a long way from home, etc.
I'm probably going to call them and feel them out before I release too much
info.  What I DON'T want to happen is to have a reluctant owner lie to us
and say yeah, we want her back, and then just surrender her to Animal
Control after we turn her over, or just let her back out in this heat, etc.
I am not going to have done all this work on this cat for NOTHING!  

The cat is back home at my mom's, no doubt loving the a/c.  She's happy and
I am sure she's gained an couple ounces since Sat. already.




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