I'm not sure if your cats go outside. Mine don't, and I have never even considered putting a collar on them. I never really thought about the health risks (like choking), but I knew my kitties would absolutely despise collars. Plus, with the tags jingling, they'd never be able to sneak up on each other (or us). I know there is a risk of them escaping when we go in and out, but really they haven't tried to run outside in at least a year. I guess it's a difficult subject to decide on. Yes, we've had emergencies where the door was left open and they got out, but we live in such a small town (without animal control, per se), that I think the benefits outweigh the risks in my case. Sorry I'm not much help! Melissa _____ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 3:22 PM To: email@example.com Subject: OT: How to Keep Tags on Your cat??? Chris's post below sparked a question I have. I have a couple of cats that constantly lose their collars. Any ideas on how to get them to keep them on? I always use break-aways because I'm afraid of my cat hanging themselves on something. In fact, our 6 lb. Julie the other day, came and woke me up wearing her collar like a girdle, because I hadn't tightened it up very much (new collar), and she got her paw through it and the break away didn't give (it didn't need to; too much room still). It was funny, but kinda scary. Anyone have any ideas? :) Wendy "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ ----- Original Message ---- From: Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: firstname.lastname@example.org Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 10:54:56 AM Subject: RE: Update on Malnourished, Rescue cat If this cat has been out there a long time, it is possible they no longer live there. I hate to be the voice of dissent, but I've been through this for 2 years now-there are sooo many reasons why a cat was lost. Nobody would ever dump a cat with a collar & tags! Actually, it's a pretty responsible thing to put collar and tags on a cat that goes outside-most people don't cause cats are notorious for pulling them off. If this is as sweet a cat as you describe him, somebody's got to be missing him. Call them-feel them out. bet you'll be surprised! Christiane Biagi 914-632-4672 Cell: 914-720-6888 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Katrina Animal Reunion Team (KART) www.findkpets.org <http://www.findkpets.org/> Join Us & Help Reunite Katrina-displaced Families with their Animals From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Caroline Kaufmann Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 11:08 AM To: email@example.com Subject: Re: Update on Malnourished, Rescue cat Oh my god! Now I know why I post my lengthy stories to you guys (more than just venting)! Everyone has made such wonderful suggestions- I really appreciate it. We have the owners address so this is what I will suggest to my mom that we do. That way, we can make the owners come to us! We can make a flyer tonight and post it on their street. Ironically, they live near the neighborhood I grew up in in Louisville and the street was on my school bus route, so my mom and I are very familiar. I'm excited now! I think this is the best way to "test" the owners! Thanks everyone! -Caroline _____ From: wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: firstname.lastname@example.org To: email@example.com Subject: Re: Update on Malnourished, Rescue cat Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 07:37:32 -0700 (PDT) You could post a flyer right on their mailbox and every other mailbox in the neighborhood, stating that the cat was found, with some description and that further description and payment of vet bill would be required to receive kitty back. I'd leave off the amount. Good ideas Melissa! "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ ----- Original Message ---- From: Melissa Lind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: firstname.lastname@example.org Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 8:36:35 AM Subject: RE: Update on Malnourished, Rescue cat Caroline, I think it's great what you are doing! I'm very happy that your mom is getting on board with it! I know my family admires (even though they may not understand) my compassion for animals, but getting them to help, even reluctantly, is something I haven't been able to do as of late. Good for you! As for the owner-issue, with my rescued cats back in April, I advertised them as found cats (without description), and stated that the owners must describe the cat and pay the vet bill. I thought that if they really loved their kitty that they would do anything to get it back-no matter the cost. And if they couldn't afford it, then they would at least try their hardest to convince me that they deserved the kitty back even if they couldn't pay. I did not think this was out of line at all, and of course, as my husband predicted, no one came forward to claim the kitties. I knew that one was a stray (lived out of a dumpster) and the other might have been a back-door feeder but was severely neglected. If I understand correctly (I've been reading stories very quickly), you have the contact info of the owners? I would get kitty all fixed up nice-then let them know the bill. If they love kitty, they'll pay (or at least try). I'm very happy for you guys-especially at your abilities to get lowered vet bills-way to go!!! Melissa _____ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Caroline Kaufmann Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 3:29 PM To: email@example.com Subject: OT: Update on Malnourished, Rescue cat My mom took the cat we rescued Sat. to her regular vet today. I couldn't get a hold of my Shamrock contact (she lost her cell phone in the bushes somewhere crawling around doing a kitten rescue- typical- this explains why I couldn't get a hold of her!). My mom was just really frustrated and felt she couldn't wait on Shamrock or anyone of those groups to help us get the cat into a vet that would treat her half price/discounted. She wanted to make sure we were dealing only with malnutrition and an upper respiratory infection. She ended up seeing a relief vet and my mom says she spent the first 15 mins arguing with the vet over what the cat needed, what they were/weren't going to do to her, and finding the owner. The vet pressured my mom into calling the vet number listed on the rabies tag AGAIN- even though we never heard from him and know that he has other clinics that are open in Louisville- well, when she called, she got a live person! That person looked up the rabies tag and gave my mom the "owner" information, so we have that now. The cat's "name" is "Nosey"...I mean..., I don't know....your alls' guesses are as good as mine...that's all I will say about that. My mom bargained down the vet and since she now had the owner info, I guess the dr. let her off the hook as far as not doing EVERYTHING that a vet would usually do with a rescued cat. They did a fecal and surprisingly, she doesn't have worms. Although, she could still have tape worms since I found a live flea on her- but we are going to wait on that. I can always get a tapeworm pill from Shamrock if I need to. She weighs 5 lbs, 5 ounces!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I told you she was malnourished!!!!! The vet had trouble aging her and guessed 5 years. I think she's a little off there-- she has tarter on her teeth, but not tons and she has no grey tarter- just the yellow, so I think she's younger than 5, but over 2 years. I think the vet's being thrown off by the malnourishment. She sneezed for the vet, so she's putting her on oral clavamox. Surprisingly, the vet said everything we've been doing for her is right and then some...we wrote out a list that included everything- the colostrum, food, etc., which my mom handed to the vet when she walked in. So I guess we know more of what we are doing than we thought. AND my usually reluctant to do "rescues" mother has even said that she is "willing to do more of this" as long as she has the resources set up ahead of time- meaning, ready access to a vet, if vet care is needed, that will treat a rescue cat for a discount! She got out of there with a $59 bill. As for calling the owner, we are in no rush. My mom still has major concerns based on how tight the collar was on the cat- so tight it rubbed the fur off, if she was supposed to be an outside cat or indoor/outdoor cat- why isn't she micro chipped, and she did end up a long way from home, etc. I'm probably going to call them and feel them out before I release too much info. 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