Yes, I can tell Giardia and Coccidia from the smell.  They smell
different, but both bad.

On 10/6/07, catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, all diarrhea smells pretty bad. lol.  As I said, I haven't had
> experience with Giardia, but when I used to foster kittens I could tell the
> coccidia smell from something else. lol.
> t
>
> Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Oh yes, yes it does. Giardia smells horrible. Believe me, I know.
>
> On 9/30/07, catatonya wrote:
> > I don't think Giardia has a specific odor like coccidia, etc.... It's more
> > like a nuisance diarrhea that's not that bad, but just won't go away.
> > t
> >
> > laurieskatz wrote:
> >
> > I don't remember Giardia odor but think it's from drinking dirty water.
> > Treatable...I think with antibiotics. I don't recall vets finding it in a
> > stool sample...just that we've treated cats with diarrhea for it.
> > Laurie
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: MaryChristine
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 9:57 AM
> > Subject: Re: Kitten Update
> >
> > kelley, remind me on giardia--is that one that isn't easy to find (ie,
> isn't
> > in every sample?) i know that's the case with coccidia...... so far
> (keeping
> > lots and lots of paws crossed), i've never had giardia, so i don't know
> it's
> > smell, but once you've had coccidia in your house, you never forget
> it.....
> > you know on csi and similar programs, they can tell the illness/problem
> just
> > from the smell? coccidia is like that..... tri-trich has a different aroma
> > all its own.
> >
> > i
> >
> > On 9/28/07, Caroline Kaufmann wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I think they are June babies, but don't know the dates for sure because
> I
> > don't have their records with me and I don't think they are from the same
> > litter. They all weigh over 2 lbs now. Yoda shot up from 2.4 at Labor Day
> > when I took him in to 3.6 last Saturday when I weighed him. The two grey
> > ones are smaller, but I need to reweigh them because adoption day was so
> > crazy last Sat., I didn't get a chance to write down their weights. I
> ended
> > up with one long haired grey one because it wouldn't gain weight and
> > couldn't get fixed yet because it didn't weigh 2 lbs. The volunteer who
> had
> > it before me was syringe feeding it? But when I got it, it immediately ate
> > crunchies first? So I started mixing wet and dry with that cat and it will
> > eat both now fine. The cat did not need to be syringe fed. I weighed it
> > last Saturday and I think it's 2.4 This is my smallest one, but it's
> > clearly gained weight since I have had it (we think it's a boy, but it's
> so
> > hard to tell when they are tiny and have long hair!). It's getting more
> > longer than fatter so the cat is really funny-looking now because it has
> > this long, lean skinny mid-section and this big head that looks like it
> > would tip it over! As opposed to Yoda who gets a fat snake belly everytime
> > he eats and who has a tiny head!
> > > They are not dripping diarrhea though. As of yesterday, the diarrhea was
> > a little worse tho in all of them- more watery, less cow pie-like.
> > > We are doing a stool sample today. My mom is off work so she is going to
> > pick up a Yoda stool sample and take that in. Hopefully, we will have some
> > answers soon. The smelly poo is driving me crazy!
> > > -Caroline
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 01:48:07 -0700
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: Kitten Update
> > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > In my experience though, coccidia gets really bad, really fast. i.e. the
> > kittens are basically dripping diarrhea....They get it on their rear ends
> > and back legs and have to be bathed frequently, etc....They don't make it
> to
> > the litterbox. That's what has been my experience with coccidia. Kittens
> > are often born with coccidia as well. When you've dealt with it you can
> > usually tell from the smell. ugh.
> > >
> > > With soft stools a lot of times it's giardia. I think a fecal is a good
> > idea, but if the stools are not as I described above, or if nothing shows
> > up, I don't think I'd add another med. at this time.
> > >
> > > Lots of kittens just have loose stools due to changes in diet,
> additives,
> > stress, etc.... Are they still hydrated? losing weight? I had one kitten
> > we put through the ringer trying to diagnose his loose stools, and we
> > finally just left him alone and they cleared up. I think it was all the
> > medicine we were giving him. How old are the kittens again?
> > >
> > > t
> > >
> > > Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > > On 9/27/07, Caroline Kaufmann wrote:
> > > > My three kittens are status-quo. I started them on a probiotic made by
> > > > Eagle Brand on Tues. evening, so they've had a day and a half of that
> > and
> > > > we're still having diarrhea/soft stools/cow pies (and stinky!). I
> don't
> > > > know how long it takes the probiotic to work though? I have talked to
> > the
> > > > volunteer of the Adoption group- who originally had these kittens and
> > whom I
> > > > needed to obtain approval from before taking in a stool sample. She
> said
> > > > she doubts it's coccidia or girardia because she thinks it would have
> > shown
> > > > up earlier because she had them at her house for a while before I took
> > them
> > > > in.
> > >
> > > That isn't necessarily true. Coccidia is so very common in kittens,
> > > and I have sent kittens to a "clean" environment (no other cats at all
> > > - they are the only cat) and had them come down with coccidia after
> > > they had been there a month.
> > >
> > > In fact, coccidia is so common that every time I have taken a kitten
> > > in for a fecal, they have prescribed Albon even if the stool sample
> > > doesn't show any (it can be hard to detect).
> > >
> > > You need to get approval?? Before taking a kitten in for a fecal?
> > >
> > > It isn't uncommon for rescuers to have 20 or 30 (or more) cats in
> > > their houses, by the way. They kill close to 70% of the cats that
> > > come in to our local kill shelter.
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