I haven't followed a lot of this but did ask one of my holistic vets about 
essences.  She prefers  Perelandra  (www.perelandra-ltd.com ) over Bach.  I 
have included the website in case you want to check it out.  I know I will be 
since I am hooked on Bach right now. 

Good luck. 

                                                 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
                                                 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
                                                 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
                                                                  St. Francis
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: laurieskatz 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 12:14 PM
  Subject: Re: We are having issues

  THANK-YOU UU, I have these issues here and have been at my wit's end.
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Unusually Unique 
    To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
    Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 10:01 AM
    Subject: Re: We are having issues

    I'm new here but I think I might be able to help.  I was having a similiar 
issue with my kids.  Waco, 9 yr old siamese who we are pretty sure is FeLV+ 
started getting real aggressive with 2 of my other weaker, sick cats.  Yota, 8 
yr old siamese, FeLV+ and Jake, 14 yr old orange tabby with an injured paw.  
I've been doing a lot of research into holistic treatments of FeLV because I 
had 2 vets tell me there is nothing that can be done for Yota (lympathic 
leukemia).  I was at Good Earth (the natural/herb store) and was talking with a 
very nice sales lady and I happened to mention Waco's aggressive behavior.  She 
suggested using a flower essense called "Vine Essence".  According to the book 
we were looking at it helps with "domination" issues.  It helps cats who feel 
the need to pick on weaker, sick or smaller cats.  She suggested putting it in 
their water or diliuting it and rubbing it on their ears when getting some luvs 
from you.  She also told me that it would not affect the other cats if I put it 
in their water.  The essenses only affect the one with "issues".  I also found 
an article that might help you if this is something your considering : 
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISW/is_2002_June/ai_86387597 .  All I 
know is that I used it and it worked.  Now when Waco starts playing "I AM ALPHA 
CAT"  I either rub some on his ears or put a couple of drops in his liquid 
vitamins and all that goes in a dropper straight down the hatch!  And I hate to 
say this but you might have Penelope checked out.  She could be sick or having 
issues your not aware of yet.  Usually the alpha cats will harrass the weak or 
sick.  Out in the wild these animals would be killed by the alpha.  Just 
something to think about.

    Also, I was wondering what if any kind of treatments are you giving your 
FeLV+ cat?

    ----- Original Message ----
    To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
    Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2007 7:56:13 PM
    Subject: We are having issues

    Ok, guys.  I hope someone can figure this situation out, because I'm at my 
wit's end.  Two of my girls are NOT getting along, and I don't know what to do. 
 Penelope (FeLV negative, 2 years old, very standoffish personality, not a 
"friendly" type cat, doesn't want to be held, only wants attention when SHE 
wants it, a loner, etc) and Grizzabella (FeLV positive, 7 years old, very 
friendly, never met a stranger, not so much a lap cat, but doesn't mind being 
petted and isn't afraid of strangers at all) are constantly at each other. :(  
They never really "liked" each other, but the last few months it has gotten 
progressively worse.  To the point that Penelope is afraid to come out of the 
bedroom.  She was pooping/peeing under the bed.  And I know it was just because 
she was afraid of Grizzabella and wouldn't come out of the bedroom.  We finally 
had to put a litterbox in there for her, and food/water.  

    What I have noticed is they seem to attack each other, depending on their 
mood, but one always jumps the other.  They can't even pass in the hall without 
fighting, and I don't know what to do.  There doesn't seem to be any 
precursor/cuase.  All it seems to take is one of them seeing the other and 
they're off.  I'm really worried Bella is going to end up scratching Penny and 
infecting her.  Right now when they start I just put Bella in the guestroom for 
a few hours so Penelope can come out of the bedroom, and then when we leave of 
the morning I let Bella out and Penelope spends the day in the bedroom.  Any of 
you guys had any success with behavior modification?  I welcome any 
thoughts/ideas on what has worked for you guys in the past.  Poppy, the third 
one in the house proper, gets along with both of them, for the most part.  I've 
seen Poppy jump Penny a time or two, but certainly nothing like the other two. 
:(  Penny and Poppy do well together most of the time (they both sleep in my 
bed at night).  Any ideas?

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