trmckel...@charter.net wrote:

>Thank you for this information, could you provide a reference, so I could 
>review the original work?
>
>I'd also like to strongly caution that even though something looks really good 
>in a research article, it doesn't mean it is effective or even safe, 
>especially when it involves animal testing for use in humans.  First hand 
>experience on this one.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Terry
>---- "jbero tds.net" <jb...@tds.net> wrote: 
>
>=============
>I did a little searching and found a more detailed paper on what was done
>with these few cats using antioxidant therapy and resulting change in viral
>status to negative.  I copied and pasted it.
>
> EXAMPLES
>
>In vivo testing was performed to demonstrate the startling effectiveness of
>the treatment methods described herein. A series of laboratory tests were
>conducted on retrovirus-infected cats. In the preferred treatment regimen,
>the animal suffering from HIV(+), is administered relatively large doses of
>both water-soluble and fat-soluble antioxidants such as Vitamins C, A and E;
>an effective amount of at least one glutathione precursor such as N-acetyl
>cysteine; followed by an NFKB induction inhibitor such as one or more
>anti-inflammatory steroids or lazaroids. As summarized. in Table 4 below,
>seven cats heavily infected with HIV or FIV were treated according to the
>methods described and claimed herein. Each cat weighed approximately 10 to
>about 18 pounds. The cats were initially treated with a single dosage of an
>effective amount of an NFKB induction inhibitor, that is an
>anti-inflammatory steroid dose of DEPO-MEDROL (20-25 mg) and a series of
>oral dosages of a glutathione precursor, N-acetyl cysteine. The amount of
>N-acetyl cysteine administered with food to each cat was 1,200 mg per day.
>In addition, large dosages of fat-soluble and water-soluble antibxidants,
>Vitamins E, C, and A were administered to the cats orally every day by
>mixing in cat food. Vitamin E was administered at a dosage of 400 IU per day
>to each cat and Vitamin C was administered at a level of 500 mg per day to
>each cat. Vitamins A, K, and copper and zinc were also administered via 1
>PET TABS per day to each cat. PET TABS is a commercially available
>multivitamin for pets such as cats, and is available from Smith-Kline
>Beecham.
>
>The treated cats: were monitored by ELISA assay for feline leukemia viruses
>antigen/feline immunodeficiency virus antibody test (CITE PRO COMBO:
>Programmed Biodetection available from IDEXX Corp. of Portland, Me.) for
>about two weeks. Of the seven cats tested, all seven appeared to have been
>cured from their earlier infection of feline leukemia, feline AIDS or both.
>The treatment process lasted one to two months of continual treatment with
>N-acetyl cysteine and high dosages of Vitamins C, E and A and periodic
>administration of anti-inflammatory steroids.
>  TABLE 4   EFFECT OF ANTIRETROVIRAL THERAPY ON  RETROVIRUS-INFECTED CATS  Age
>Sex Name Assay Symptoms Assay   8 F Champagne FELV(+), hair loss, lost teeth
>FELV(-),   FIV(+)  FIV(-)  8 M Precious FELV(+), vomiting, dental
>FELV(-),   FIV(+)
>problems FIV(-)  9 F Missy FELV(+), Bloody diarrhea, FELV(-),   FIV(+) problems
>dental FIV(-)  11 M Sampson FIV(+) vomiting, gum red FIV(-)  8 M Josey FELV(+)
>teeth loss, no FELV(-)    appetite, lung    problem  10 M Patch FIV(+) poor
>appetite, FIV(-)    lethargy  12 M Bud FIV(+) weight loss, no FIV(-)
> appetite
>
>
>Notes
>
>1) One cat with FELV(+)/FIV(+) died without the treatment as a control.
>
>2) Treatments: Cats were injected intramuscularly with 20 mg DEPO-MEDROL
>(anti-inflammatory steroid) and dispensed with 1,200 mg powdered N-acetyl
>cysteine, 200 IU of Vitamin E, 500 mg of Vitamin C and one PET TAB/day.
>
>3) It takes from 3 weeks to 6 weeks for the cats to turn retrovirus positive
>reaction to negative after the treatment.
>
>4) The symptoms of Champagne, Precious, and Missy such as dental problems,
>bloody diarrhea, and loss of appetite completely subsided after the
>treatment with steroids/antioxidants. The symptoms of Sampson such as
>vomiting, gum disease, and loss of appetite completely reversed after the
>treatment. Josey's symptoms of lung problem, loss of appetite, and gum
>infection cleared up following the treatment. The cats were maintained on
>PET TABS following the treatment with steroid/antioxidants.
>
>5) At the conclusion of the test all cats remained FIV or leukemia virus
>negative.
>
>6) Blood was drawn for analysis from four of the cats treated (Sampson,
>Josey, Patch, and Bud). The analysis included cell cultures, mitogen
>stimulation, and polymerase chain reaction assay for the retrovirus. All
>tests indicated the cats were fully cured as none indicated any sign of the
>virus.
>
>These cat experiments are the first to demonstrate that AIDS can be cured in
>an in vivo model. Treatments were performed by a licensed veterinarian. The
>treatment methods were also performed by a second veterinarian. The second
>set of treatments were also successful.
>
>In an optional treatment regimen, to be followed when the animal suffering
>from HIV(+), is exhibiting AIDS (that is, a T-lymphocyte or CD 4 lymphocyte
>count less than 100 cells/mm 3 ), relatively large doses of both
>water-soluble and fat-soluble antioxidants and an effective amount of at
>least one glutathione precursor such as N-acetyl cysteine are administered.
>Before an NFKB induction inhibitor is administered, the CD 4 (T-lymphocyte)
>count is increased to about 100 cells/mm 3 or more. The CD 4 count may be
>raised by administering, such as by injection, GM-CSF to stimulate
>monocytes. GM-CSF is a granulocyte monocyte cell stimulating hormone.
>Alternatively, or in addition to administering GM-CSF, fresh white cell
>concentrates containing monocytes may be given, such as via transfusions.
>Once CD 4 counts are about 100 cells/mm 3 or more, an NFKB induction
>inhibitor is administered.
>
>In both the preferred and optional treatment regimens, the NFKB induction
>inhibitor is administered until AIDS(-) is indicated from AIDS(+) blood
>assay, via ELISA, Western blot, and PCR (polymerase chain reaction)
>analyses. It is also preferred to administer in conjunction with the
>antioxidants, a daily multivitamin containing all recommended minerals with
>copper and zinc. The administration of GM-CSF and/or transfusion of fresh
>white cell concentrates containing monocytes may be performed simultaneously
>or in conjunction with the administering of multivitamins, water-soluble
>antioxidants, fat-soluble, antioxidants and/or glutathione precursor
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