--- On Thu, 3/24/11, TANYA NOE <[email protected]> wrote:
> From: TANYA NOE <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors > To: [email protected] > Date: Thursday, March 24, 2011, 9:09 AM > Personally I would never rather see a > cat dead than see it declawed. People lose limbs all the > time and go on living, most people would choose to live > missing a limb or limbs rather than die. Animals are no > different, they will chew off a limb to live. > There are people who love their pets and their immune > systems can not handle the scratches or the children in the > home are not safe because of it's scratching. There are also > a lot of cats that are nasty scratchers for no apparent > reason and no matter what you do you can't break them of it. > > Declawing is amputation but most cats recover from it and > live out their lives just fine without lingering pain or > litterbox issues. With good pain meds, a competent Vet, and > love and compassion most cats do well. I am not a declaw > advocate but understand that sometimes it may be the price > one pays for a good home. Many cats get dumped at kill > shelters because they wont quit scratching and being > destructive. It is far better to be declawed than to be > killed and never have had the experience of a home and of > being loved. > T > --- On Thu, 3/24/11, Natalie <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > From: Natalie <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Thursday, March 24, 2011, 8:07 AM > > Personally, if I had to make such a > > choice - having my cat that I have loved > > for years go though such pain and torture, I would > rather > > get a home for the > > cat and adopt one that is already declawed - there > are > > quite a few that are > > in desperate need for homes because they've been > abandoned > > for so many > > reasons! But that's me; I hate to say it, but > sometimes I > > wonder whether I > > might almost rather see them dead than declawed....but > I'd > > beg someone to > > take the cat first. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] > > On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG > > Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 7:25 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors > > > > I deal with ferals too and all of my house cats have > been > > ferals. One > > cost me two surgeries thanks to biting through a > > finger...my fault not > > hers. A lot of older people are on blood thinners, > > have extremely > > "thin skin" etc. I've been scratched more times > than > > I can count. > > Obviously, you have been blessed. I'm in my 50's > and > > recover fairly > > easily. I know of too many older people without > > sufficient support > > who can't recover quickly. I suspect it has to do > > with the overall > > health of the individual and the personality of the > > cat. Personally, > > I have seen my mother bleed for hours from various > (for > > me) > > insignificant cuts. As I said, declawing should be > > the last resort > > but there are times I feel it is justified. > > > > > > On Mar 23, 2011, at 9:34 PM, Natalie wrote: > > > > > That is true, but I don't understand why an old > person > > can't have a > > > cat with > > > claws. Dealing mostly with feral cats, I have > > never been bitten or > > > scratched - what's the danger, I am 70 yrs > old. > > And as I said, > > > bites are a > > > natural defense for declawed cats! > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [email protected] > > > [mailto:[email protected]] > > On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 6:40 PM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors > > > > > > Those may be very reasonable options for a lot > of > > people. However, I > > > suspect you overestimate the resources available > to > > everyone. Not > > > everyone can drive; not everyone has someone who > > can/will attempt to > > > trim a cat's nails; not everyone can afford a > trip to > > the vet's every > > > 2-4 weeks; and not every cat can be rehomed. > > Mass transit is not > > > available everywhere. > > > > > > I agree that it should be a last resort. > > However, I am not willing to > > > condemn everyone who declaws. > > > On Mar 23, 2011, at 5:25 PM, Natalie wrote: > > > > > >> A vet, a vet tech, or a friend could do it - > > surely a better option > > >> than > > >> putting a cat through such torture, not to > mention > > complete > > >> personality > > >> change to being withdrawn, morose, or an > > unpredictable biter! Cat > > >> bites are > > >> more dangerous than scratches any time! > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: [email protected] > > >> [mailto:[email protected]] > > On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG > > >> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 6:14 PM > > >> To: [email protected] > > >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats > Indoors > > >> > > >> That is a good option....if the owner is able > to > > trim nails and put > > >> SoftPaws on. A lot of elderly people don't > > have the physical > > >> dexterity or skills to trim nails. In > fact, > > I have watched young > > >> people who could not master the task. > > >> On Mar 23, 2011, at 5:05 PM, Natalie wrote: > > >> > > >>> A good solution for a problem as you > > mentioned, is trimming claws > > >>> and using > > >>> "SoftPaws" - declawing an older cat can > be > > even worse than for a > > >>> kitten at > > >>> times...the pain after surgery is > supposed to > > be absolutely > > >>> excruciating - > > >>> cats either climb the walls in the > recover > > cage or sit in the > > >>> corner, > > >>> completely catatonic (according to > Dr.Nicholas > > Dodman). _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list [email protected] http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
