Marta - 

I have an FIV + cat that is like 12 or 13 yrs old (we don't know for sure but 
that's what I think) with no sign of "giving up the ghost" as my husband says.  
He used to live indoor/outdoor I believe.  So these FIV kitties can live a 
fairly long life.  My friend's FIV kitties have always lived into their teens.  
My cat, a former foster, had a really bad URI when I got him three years ago 
and the vet wasn't sure he'd recover since he had FIV.  A two week round of 
Clavamox was all it took and he was fine.

Just thought I'd share in case anyone was worried about the lifespan of a cat 
with FIV.  I'd rather a cat test positive for FIV rather than FeLV.  His 
chances are better and he's not as contagious.

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain

Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:56:23 -0800
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Thanks for the replies

Muscle weakness and muscle wasting on rear legs are the first side effects of 
long-term pred dosing. And long term for pred is not(as I thought)5 years but a 
couple or 3.
I also think that his sitting not touching the floor is due to either arthritis 
and/or muscle pain. If his muscles are weakening he'll be in pain.
I've two cats that do it and one of the rescue kittens did it recently(she hurt 
her back via bad fall, she's much better but it was scary)
I also have another kitten that was dx with muscle wasting(birth defect) he 
doesn't sit normally either.
I understand your feelings and am sorry for what you are going throught, a 15 
year old is frail and lots of infirmities like an elderly person. So you are 
doing your best and giving lots of love to Buster, thats waht matters I believe.
IMO if he had FIP(there's no test for FIP, the lady must have meant FIV?) he 
wouldn't be with you now and if he had FeLV probably not either. I do have a 
cat for adoption that is 10 yrs old and tested FIV+ twice, that to me is 
remarkable b/c he was a cat that owner kept outside, I wouldn't expect it to 
live this long being exposed to so much.

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Subject: [Felvtalk] Thanks for the replies
Date: Thursday, November 17, 2011, 4:10 AM

I really appreciate everyone who responded to my post.  It makes me feel a bit 
more secure knowing there are others rooting for our success.

I think that my keeping Buster on prednisolone is a requirement since he has 
been on it for so long.  I am sure it has compromised his adrenals and that 
without pred, he will have Cushings (or maybe Addison's).

Beth - Buster did have blood work done, in 2009, and it was all fine.  ELISA 
was negative.  Before I took in this older cat (her guardian died and the 
rescue group was unable to find anyone to take her), I asked to have the cat 
tested.  I have 2 other, indoor only, cats and I wanted to make sure that I 
didn't bring disease into the house.  I was told that the new cat tested 
negative for FIP and FeLV.  I do trust the woman who asked me to take in the 
older kitty, but I have no paperwork to verify.

Although Buster lived amicably with
 my 2nd cat, she hated the new cat.  The new cat caused Buster a lot of stress. 
 I tried everything, Rescue Remedy, Feliway etc.  Finally, after about a year, 
things settled down.  I never saw any wounds, on either cat, but I know there 
were 'minor' fights as I found tufts of hair around (including once or twice 
hanging out of Buster's mouth!)  They still hiss, but mostly try to stay out of 
one another's way

My vet didn't want to give me the prednisolone, but I was frantic, unable to 
pay for any more investigative work, and wanted my cat well.  I live over 90 
miles, one way, from my (any) vet, and I think she gave me the pred. out of 
kindness.  Regardless of good or bad, Buster has been on 5mg for 2 years.

I don't think Buster has stomatitis now, although eating does appear painful at 
times.  Back in 2010, the vet did extract a couple of teeth.  And, a tooth, or 
two just disintegrated when she
 was cleaning his teeth.  Last time he was under (2010) she said his throat 
appeared inflamed, but I do pill him everyday and I am sure that caused that 

He doesn't eat a lot, and he eats small amounts many, many, many times 
throughout the day.  Occasionally, he does stop eating and I need to syringe 
food.  He doesn't/can't eat dry food any more.

I will look at his gums tomorrow.

Marta, I agree and appreciate your thoughts 'it is what it is'.  I am trying my 
best, by myself, to keep Buster alive.  At this point, my focus is only to keep 
him happy, comfortable and with me.  I finally realized, he won't get well.  I 
do think he wants to stay alive.  Although failing, he sits with me, sleeps 
with me, communicates with me etc.  He does have muscle weakness in the back 
end.  He can't sit to groom without falling.  

One odd thing, that I have never been able to
 figure out, is when he sits, his bottom doesn't touch the floor?????  And, 
now,  to lay down he has to kinda settle himself carefully.  Something is 
hurting I am sure.

Not sure why this 'phone vet' thought FeLV except for the inappetance.  But, 
when I looked at the Cornell site, Buster had more than half the symptoms.  I 
do know that these are common symptoms for many illnesses.

Maybe he doesn't have FeLV, and maybe he does.....  It's a great comfort to me 
to have a sounding board and to hear how others are treating their kitties.

Buster has just begun sneezing, just a bit, but no blood.

In general, how long do FeLV cats live without Interferon etc?  Can they be 
kept alive with the right drugs, or 3 years is pretty much it, plus or minus?


PS  All my cats share common food and water bowls and litter


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