Yes, I do return FIV cats, but nor FeLV cats, but,like I said, Alley Cat Allies 
is against testing any ferals & would return FeLV cats.

Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!

 From: Lee Evans <>
To: "" <> 
Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2012 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] TNR

TNR is a good way to guard against the spread of FIV since the way most cats 
spread this disease is through deep bites while fighting during mating season.  
FIV is not easily spread through contact with other cats.  A mom cat who is 
FIV+ may pass it to her offspring but they may also throw it off within 3 
months and test negative after that.  In addition, I have a small group of FIV 
cats who have been living with it for the past 6 years and are healthy and 
happy.  My FeLv cats on the other hand, may remain non-symptomatic for as long 
as 2 years but eventually, they do succumb to either the disease or other 
complications due to the underlying disease, mostly lymphoma.  So don't mix 
FeLv+ cats with regular cats.  But mixing neutered/spayed FIV+ cats with your 
regular feline community will not ordinarily endanger anyone unless one of the 
cats in the group is a habitual nasty fighter.  Most of my cats have a couple 
of FIV+ cats mixed in but no one is
 a serious fighter so they are all safe.  Lee

From: Beth <>
To: "" <> 
Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2012 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] TNR

If you fix a positive mom & put her back in a colony you are spreading FeLV. It 
does not just spread by her having babies, It will spread by her sharing water 
with the other cats.


 Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!

From: Sharyl <>
To: "" <> 
Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2012 3:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] caboodle ranch - other side of the story links

I know others have also responded Natalie about TNR.  TNR is one of the best 
ways of fighting the spread of FeLV.  In my experience a positive momma will 
have positive kittens.  Fix the momma and you stop the spread of the disease in 
a feral colony.  I also do TNR and manage 2 feral colonies.  The adult males 
and females are released back after recovery from their surgeries.  Males 1 day 
and females 3-4 days as long as they are doing OK.   The kittens I tame and try 
to adopt out.  The only way to combat PETA is to responsibly manage these 
feral/hard stray colonies.  My oldest feral is a 7+ year old male who is only 
happy outside in his colony.  We can't take all these feral/hard strays in but 
we can give them a healthy, stress free life in their colonies once they have 
been spayed/neutered.  At least that way the population is controlled.     
The real problem is feeders who do not TNR.  That's how these feral/hard stray 
colonies get out of control.  Managing these colonies means responsible s/n, 
feeding and medical treatment when needed.  

From: GRAS <>
Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 11:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] caboodle ranch - other side of the story links

I know many people who do TNR and have dedicated volunteers taking care of 
them, even trapping for vet visits. Personally, I don’t like some of the ways 
that TNR cats are provided or NOT provided for.  Some groups spay cats and 
release them almost immediately, even in freezing weather (when it is a known 
fact that healing is seriously hindered) , and such consequences as infections, 
and even disembowelment due to ruptures.
Yes, one should expect cats at such a ranch to be provided with medical care!
I can’t even imagine how many people are required to seriously care for 700 
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