Good question!  Kay, my mother had Collies and pressure cooked whole chickens 
for them. We'd come home do
 School and smell that, thinking, yum!! Chicken and dumplings!!! Uh-uh! Nope! 
Chicken for the dogs! Lol, I ended up just like my Mom(-:  except of course, 
now I don't eat the meat.

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On Sep 1, 2012, at 8:21 AM, Kat Parker <[email protected]> wrote:

> I have been vegetarian a few years, but I often buy and cook chichen for the 
> cats.  I boil it, then shred it, and almost always have a bowl of it in my 
> fridge and/or freezer for them.  My friends think I am whacko because of 
> that. I don't ever eat it, but I know cats have different needs, and they 
> need meat. I , naturally have the option, being omnivorous, but they don't 
> have the same choice in their diet, as you all well know.   About once a 
> month, I am a chicken cooking fool, on a fairly large scale.  (I always 
> apologize to the birds.  haha)
> I've also heard that cats cannot taste "sweet", Kathryn... I am baffled by 
> this.  I know that they love the taste of Karo syrup, and even concentrated 
> SUGAR WATER is often used on the gums of kits to stimulate a little appetite, 
> especially the wee ones who need to take a bottle.  Also, though I have never 
> tasted it, I heard anti-freeze is "sweet", and that is why so many cats are 
> poisoned by it.  This sounds like such a contradiction to me, and I wonder, 
> if it's not the "sweet" they taste  in the syrup, what is it?  And in sugar 
> water, there is only sugar...and water.  What else could it be?
> 
>    Kat 
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Kathryn Hargreaves <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: 
> Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 02:55:28 -0800
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+, Struvite Crystals, and Nutrition
> I've been vegan for almost 20 years (vegetarian for some some before that), 
> so it's always funny when people see me buying so much meat for the cats.
> 
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Kathryn Hargreaves <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: 
> Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 03:38:11 -0800
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+, Struvite Crystals, and Nutrition
> Some of my cats adore veggies.   Cats can't taste sweet, did you know?  No 
> receptors for it.
> 
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 3:11 AM, Beth <[email protected]> wrote:
> They might just like veggies, plus corn is sweet. My cats are obsessed with 
> lettuce.
> 
> Beth
>  
> Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
>  
> 
> From: Lee Evans <[email protected]>
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 6:46 AM
> 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+, Struvite Crystals, and Nutrition
> 
> There's so much corn in cat food that when I opened a can of corn for myself 
> recently, one of my cats ran over and began gobbling it.  Sheesh!  Since I'm 
> a vegetarian, they don't get leftovers like hamburger and chicken.  So they 
> eat my corn and tofu.  Weird world.
> 
>  
> Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty 
> neighbors too!
> 
> 
> From: Kathryn Hargreaves <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected] 
> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 1:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+, Struvite Crystals, and Nutrition
> 
> Not only are corn, wheat, and soy not cat food (they can't digest veggies 
> very well, much less grains, which can give them diabetes and IBD), but 
> unless the corn and soy are organic, they are most likely GMO, and soy can 
> give cats Hyperthyroidism (I learned this the hard way on a 7-month-old who 
> died).   
> 
> Yes, fish dries the system (ours, too), and is a mercury risk.
> 
> I've already said what I think about dry food.
> 
> 
> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 7:50 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> My Homey has had several bouts of crystals.  She liked the Hill's SD canned 
> food, but not the dry.  I had taken my guys off Hills because they ahve corn, 
> wheat and soy and they are allergic to those ingredients.  I now feed Blue 
> buffalo dry DUCK.  We love that and also the duck canned food.  We hate 
> chicken and fish which is okay because the vet said fish can be part of the 
> problem.  I have tried to get them off the dry, but not too much luck.  Right 
> now, Homey is okay.  I got water fountains and everyone loves them.  It 
> recirculates the water thre a filter.  The plastic ones are okay, but need to 
> be cleaned out more often.  I got one on line that is stainless steel.  Much 
> better, lower profile so I can open cabinet doors without hitting it and it 
> does not need to be cleaned as often.  With the fountains, the water is 
> always moving, makes noise and they do drink more water.  You might try them.
> 
> 
> ---- Emma Beauchamp <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hello All,
> 
> My cat Gertrude Penelope Pennyapple is a one year old baby and she has had 
> FELV probably since she was born. She has always been very healthy despite 
> the FELV and a chronic upper respiratory infection, but recently (Sunday 
> night) she contracted a UTI.  She had a urinalysis at the vet and 130 dollars 
> later she was diagnosed with an UTI, and Struvite Crystals were present in 
> her bladder.  I was given an Antibiotic called Orbax and given Hill's Science 
> Prescription diet S/D.  I bought a bag of Dry Food and a couple of cans of 
> wet. 
> 
> My picky/anorexic cat hates both of them! She ate 1/3 of a can of the wet 
> food yesterday, but hasn't touched it today, and she just kind of giggled at 
> the dry food and turned away. 
> 
> 
> After reading a few articles online, I'm kind of mad they sold me the dry 
> food in the first place, since a big part of the struvite crystals is water 
> intake!
> 
> I was wondering if anybody has dealt with this issue before, and if so what 
> kind of food/diet did you switch to?
> 
> Before the prescription food I was feeding Gertie Whiskas brand meaty 
> selections dry food, and occasionally their wet food as well.  I used to feed 
> her exclusively Blue Buffalo Wet Food, but this summer funds were tight so I 
> switched to the Whiskas, and she seemed to like it more anyway!
> 
> So any suggestions/experiences would be welcome and helpful!!
> 
> Emma Beauchamp
> 
> 
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