Thanks Lance. I'll look into DMG. Shelley
On Nov 12, 2013, at 11:59 AM, Lance wrote: > LTCI is an American-made product and is *not* an interferon. I’m referring to > feline recombinant interferon omega that has the trade name of Virbagen > Omega, originally manufactured by Virbac. Glad to hear that LTCI may have > helped your cat, Katherine. > > Shelley: You might consider supplementing with DMG. Vetri Science makes a > liquid and a chewable. The chewable also contains lysine. Ember likes the > chewable, but the liquid is easy to give via eyedropper (we used that for > many years). I don’t think it has any taste. Ember doesn’t seem to care. > Either form is fairly cheap, and certainly less expensive per dose than even > the human interferon. Amazon has both for sale. > > On Nov 12, 2013, at 10:51 AM, Shelley Theye <ve...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > >> Thanks, I'll check out the link and archives. >> >> Shelley >> >> >> On Nov 12, 2013, at 11:05 AM, Katherine K. wrote: >> >>> No, I don't think so but honestly can't remember the difference without >>> looking it all up again. Try searching the listserv archives. You can find >>> out more about LTCI at http://tcyte.com/. >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Shelley Theye <ve...@bellsouth.net> wrote: >>> Thanks Katherine. So LTCI is the same thing Lance is referring to as >>> feline recombinant interferon omega ? >>> Shelley >>> >>> >>> On Nov 12, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Katherine K. wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Shelley and Jennifer, >>>> >>>> When my 10 yr old cat was first diagnosed in July, I found this forum to >>>> be helpful in learning about LTCI: >>>> http://910pets.com/forum/topics/feline-leukemia?xg_source=activity&id=2127871. >>>> It's not very active now, but it's a good resource and folks will still >>>> respond to you if you post there. >>>> >>>> My cat was running a fever, had gone from 13 lbs to 11.5, wasn't eating >>>> and was lethargic when he was first diagnosed. I don't remember his RBC >>>> count at the moment. We ordered LTCI for him and gave him 3 injections in >>>> the first week, then went to once a week for 2 weeks, then once every 2 >>>> weeks for a few weeks, and now he gets it once a month. He has returned to >>>> his normal self. He was also on a low dose of prednisone for a month. I >>>> don't know which medicine helped pull him out of the woods but I'm glad to >>>> keep trying the LTCI if it keeps him healthy. It costs me about $50 per >>>> injection though so it's not something I'm financially able to try on my 4 >>>> positive kittens. >>>> >>>> Katherine >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Shelley Theye <ve...@bellsouth.net> wrote: >>>> Lance, >>>> Thanks so much for explaining the difference between the 2 interferons. I >>>> did not realize that there were 2 types. I had asked Leo's new vet about >>>> using it as a preventative, and since she could easily get interferon, >>>> now I know that it was the human one. Anyway, he is not symptomatic >>>> right now, so the only thing I give him occasionally is Lysine. >>>> Shelley >>>> >>>> Shelley Theye >>>> ve...@bellsouth.net >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Nov 11, 2013, at 8:50 PM, Lance wrote: >>>> >>>>> I think the de Mari feline recombinant interferon omega study was done >>>>> with symptomatic FeLV+ cats. I think. If I already had interferon omega >>>>> and Ember was symptomatic, I would definitely try it. I know very little >>>>> about what is suggested with LTCI (symptomatic vs. asymptomatic for >>>>> treatment). Their website should mention this. >>>>> >>>>> To clarify, there are two types of interferon given for FeLV+ cats: 1) >>>>> interferon alpha (a product for humans that has anecdotally shown >>>>> promise, but studies have failed to verify this) and 2) feline >>>>> recombinant interferon omega (anecdotal evidence AND studies have shown >>>>> promise). >>>>> >>>>> It’s easy to get #1 from pretty much any vet. They can write a >>>>> prescription and have it filled by Roadrunner or another pharmacy that >>>>> does drugs/compounding for pets. It’s also cheap. I think it’s ~$40 for a >>>>> month and a half supply using the 5 days on/5 days off protocol. >>>>> >>>>> It’s somewhat difficult and expensive to get #2.Your vet has to go >>>>> through an FDA program that used to be called Compassionate Use. This >>>>> allows your vet clearance to import feline recombinant interferon omega, >>>>> which they need, as it’s not sold in the US. There’s paperwork involved, >>>>> though I don’t think it’s horrible. A dedicated, compassionate vet will >>>>> do this for you. You then have to pay (through your vet) Abbeyvet In >>>>> England for the drug and the overnight shipping—overnight from England. >>>>> When I last priced this, it was ~$1300 for the drug and the shipping. I >>>>> believe this is for something like 15 doses, but that’s all you give in a >>>>> year, according to the established protocol. At least with feline >>>>> recombinant interferon omega, you know you have something that has been >>>>> proven to work, unlike other drugs I could mention. Will it produce >>>>> results for a particular FeLV+ cat? Maybe? >>>>> >>>>> If Pookie is doing well, then I agree: don’t rock the boat. You might >>>>> still look into what it would take to get feline recombinant interferon >>>>> omega imported. Your vet might never have heard of it, and it might be >>>>> useful to ask them to look into it. If you decide to do it down the road, >>>>> you have that much less work to do to get it here. >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 11, 2013, at 6:48 PM, trustinhi...@charter.net wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I took Pookie to the one of four vets in Wisconsin who has done LTCI >>>>>> injections, but Pookie was sick, running a temp, and not eating when he >>>>>> was seen. So he wasn't a candidate for the injection. Do the FELV+ >>>>>> kitties need to be symptom free before they administer this? Also is >>>>>> this the same with the interferon shots? And does anyone know who >>>>>> administers interferon in Wisconsin? My inclination is if it isn't >>>>>> broken don't fix it...If Pookie is doing well, I don't want to mess with >>>>>> him. And he is doing great now since he had acupuncture. Seems so hit or >>>>>> miss with all this?? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Jennifer Lewis wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Has anyone tried any other the other meds out there, like Lymphocyte >>>>>>> T-Cell Immunomodulator (LTCI)? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jennifer L, Munchkin and Brynn >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Nov 11, 2013, at 12:54 PM, MaryChristine wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://goo.gl/uT6Evb >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> not new to most of us, but always good to see things get the >>>>>>>> "official" recognition. tho it does end as most research articles do, >>>>>>>> "more research is needed." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> MC >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! >>>>>>>> Maybe That'll Make The Difference.... >>>>>>>> MaryChristine >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Felvtalk mailing list >>>>>>>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>>>>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Felvtalk mailing list >>>>>>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>>>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Felvtalk mailing list >>>>>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Felvtalk mailing list >>>>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Felvtalk mailing list >>>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Felvtalk mailing list >>>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
