Many in which group have used it?

-----Original Message-----
>From: [email protected]
>Sent: Oct 27, 2015 10:07 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))
>
>To me, if my babies get better, I don't care what did it as long as it works.  
>I prefer not to look a gift horse in the mouth.  Plus, many in the group have 
>used it so it must be safe.
>
>---- Amani Oakley <[email protected]> wrote: 
>> Winstrol is VERY SAFE. Seriously.
>> 
>> What difference does it make if you "mistakenly" attribute the improvement 
>> to Winstrol, as long as you get an improvement. I didn't mistakenly 
>> attribute Zander's improvement to Winstrol because I ran WEEKLY blood work, 
>> and was doing so long before I started the Winstrol.
>> 
>> With the Winstrol, I expect you to see an improvement pretty quickly 
>> regarding haematocrit and a little later, the red cells.
>> 
>> Amani
>> 
>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
>> Marsha
>> Sent: October-27-15 8:13 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))
>> 
>> My vet said that darbepoetin is a newer drug that he felt is safer.  But I'm 
>> not sure how much he has used it.  I haven't even started researching it.  
>> The cyclophosphamide suppresses Peaches' immune system, so it may have a 
>> protective effect from the immune system.  Still looking for a source for 
>> Winstrol.  Two local vets are looking it up for me.  Neither has used it for 
>> 20-25 years.  One said she used to use it a lot for CRF cats that were 
>> anemic and cachexic.  She didn't have any issues with it (adverse or side 
>> effects), but doesn't remember it as anything spectacular either.  She 
>> cautioned that since Peaches is slowly improving anyway (appetite - I won't 
>> know about blood values until next week), that I might mistakenly attribute 
>> improvement to Winstrol (if I got some for her), when she was going to 
>> improve anyway.  Peaches' primary vet chuckled when I said her oncologist 
>> hadn't heard of it - "She must be young!" he said.  So anybody who's looking 
>> for Winstrol or a vet
  
> experienced with it, check out the local vets that are in their late 50's at 
> least.
>> 
>> Marsha
>> 
>> On 10/27/2015 6:54 PM, Maya D'Alessio wrote:
>> I would be careful about using erythropoeitin or darbepoeitin, both have 
>> been shown to eventually (but not in every case) cause the cat's own immune 
>> system to recognize the drug and destroy it, which would be less of a 
>> problem if that was it, but unfortunately it also starts to recognize the 
>> cats own natural erythropoeitin and destroy it as well. This ends 
>> catastrophically badly, as without erythropoeitin, very little blood cell 
>> production is able to happen in the body. It seems to take some time for 
>> this reaction to happen, but I was just reading up on it for my guy 
>> (Merlot), and from what I read I would be very hesitant to use it. I would 
>> try Winstrol or something else first, before I tried the erythropoeitin.
>> 
>> 
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