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---- Margo <toomanykitti...@earthlink.net> wrote: 
> 
> Many in which group have used it?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: dlg...@windstream.net
> >Sent: Oct 27, 2015 10:07 PM
> >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))
> >
> >To me, if my babies get better, I don't care what did it as long as it 
> >works.  I prefer not to look a gift horse in the mouth.  Plus, many in the 
> >group have used it so it must be safe.
> >
> >---- Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote: 
> >> Winstrol is VERY SAFE. Seriously.
> >> 
> >> What difference does it make if you "mistakenly" attribute the improvement 
> >> to Winstrol, as long as you get an improvement. I didn't mistakenly 
> >> attribute Zander's improvement to Winstrol because I ran WEEKLY blood 
> >> work, and was doing so long before I started the Winstrol.
> >> 
> >> With the Winstrol, I expect you to see an improvement pretty quickly 
> >> regarding haematocrit and a little later, the red cells.
> >> 
> >> Amani
> >> 
> >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> >> Marsha
> >> Sent: October-27-15 8:13 PM
> >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))
> >> 
> >> My vet said that darbepoetin is a newer drug that he felt is safer.  But 
> >> I'm not sure how much he has used it.  I haven't even started researching 
> >> it.  The cyclophosphamide suppresses Peaches' immune system, so it may 
> >> have a protective effect from the immune system.  Still looking for a 
> >> source for Winstrol.  Two local vets are looking it up for me.  Neither 
> >> has used it for 20-25 years.  One said she used to use it a lot for CRF 
> >> cats that were anemic and cachexic.  She didn't have any issues with it 
> >> (adverse or side effects), but doesn't remember it as anything spectacular 
> >> either.  She cautioned that since Peaches is slowly improving anyway 
> >> (appetite - I won't know about blood values until next week), that I might 
> >> mistakenly attribute improvement to Winstrol (if I got some for her), when 
> >> she was going to improve anyway.  Peaches' primary vet chuckled when I 
> >> said her oncologist hadn't heard of it - "She must be young!" he said.  So 
> >> anybody who's looking for Winstrol or a v
 et
>   
> > experienced with it, check out the local vets that are in their late 50's 
> > at least.
> >> 
> >> Marsha
> >> 
> >> On 10/27/2015 6:54 PM, Maya D'Alessio wrote:
> >> I would be careful about using erythropoeitin or darbepoeitin, both have 
> >> been shown to eventually (but not in every case) cause the cat's own 
> >> immune system to recognize the drug and destroy it, which would be less of 
> >> a problem if that was it, but unfortunately it also starts to recognize 
> >> the cats own natural erythropoeitin and destroy it as well. This ends 
> >> catastrophically badly, as without erythropoeitin, very little blood cell 
> >> production is able to happen in the body. It seems to take some time for 
> >> this reaction to happen, but I was just reading up on it for my guy 
> >> (Merlot), and from what I read I would be very hesitant to use it. I would 
> >> try Winstrol or something else first, before I tried the erythropoeitin.
> >> 
> >> 
> >
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