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Today's Topics:
1. Can't eat (Karen Harshbarger)
2. Re: Can't eat ([email protected])
3. Re: Can't eat (Katherine K.)
4. My Leuk + kitten and disgraceful vet (Sherri Godschalk)
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Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 02:30:09 -0700
From: Karen Harshbarger To: felvtalk Subject: [Felvtalk] Can't eat
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I come to you for suggestions for our Cole. We got Cole as a litter
rescue from our yard
We feed the strays and a little very young mother left them at our
door
We already had some house cats so built a kennel to shelter them
Outside and began To look for homes for them. Then two litter kittens
showed up and old tom. A no kill shelter took the littler kittens.
They found out one if them tested positive for feline leukemia. We
tested rest of ours and all but the one female tested positive. So we
cleaned out our garage, insulated, heated, air conditioned and
sheltered them there. No matter what we did little Tig was so sick
That he died before he was a yr old. He was such a sweet little cat
that considered everything and anyone a toy--so sad. The rest tested
negative the next two test. We all lived happily for next 3 1/2 years.
Until this week Cole stopped eating.
Took him to vet and here is bad part.
Tested positive for feline leukemia again
Bun10 (16-3(
Alt 294(12-130)
Alkp 144(14-111)
Tbil 4.2(0.0-0.9)
Rbc 4.02 (8.54-12.20)
Hct 21.1(30.3-52.3)
Hgb 6.8(9.8-16.2)
Wbc 2.06(2.87-17.02
Neu 0.50(1.48-10.29)
Lym 0.74(0.92-6.88)
Plt 39(151-600)
Rest was in normal range
The vet gave Cole subcutaneous fluids, polyflex/dexasone injection, b
complex injection, and clavamox drops on last wednesday.
But he cant eat and i am syringe feeding AD prscription Food. First
few days was able to get him to take 2 syringes but then threw up and
have not been able to get him past One syringe since then without him
throwing up. He threw up food three times and phlem or hair. He is
very alert, drinking, urinating 2-4 times a day, no BM until one
little turd today
He bathes Self after he eats, shinny healthy looking hair. Took Cole
back today and vet did same as before but We changed to Orbax instead
of clavamox. I was very excited tonight cause he attempted to eat But
only licked gravy of purina Fancy feast., but was start. Later this
evening after syringe feed only 3 ml he threw up what looked like two
meals!! He seems to have a good day, but then has setback with
throwup--- three times he has done that . He has lost a pound in 6
days!!. So worried cause he cant eat on own and keeps throwing up.
His brother Ash tested positive again too but his bloodwork is all in
normal range and seems ti be doing fine. His other brother BJ tested
negative and bloodwork all normal range. Vet suggested no treatment
for them. I housed them together and seperated Cole.
I am so worried that we are going to loose Cole because he cant eat
and keeps throwing up syringed food. Also worried about Ash's
positive test for feline leukemia again.
Sorry for lenght but thought you wpuld need all info.
Please advise as soon as possible. Thank you from Cole, his family
and I
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Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 10:15:49 -0500
From: To: [email protected]
Cc: Karen Harshbarger Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can't eat
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I have not hd experience with this, but will keep you and Cole in my
prayers.
---- Karen Harshbarger wrote:
I come to you for suggestions for our Cole. We got Cole as a litter
rescue from our yard
We feed the strays and a little very young mother left them at our
door
We already had some house cats so built a kennel to shelter them
Outside and began To look for homes for them. Then two litter kittens
showed up and old tom. A no kill shelter took the littler kittens.
They found out one if them tested positive for feline leukemia. We
tested rest of ours and all but the one female tested positive. So we
cleaned out our garage, insulated, heated, air conditioned and
sheltered them there. No matter what we did little Tig was so sick
That he died before he was a yr old. He was such a sweet little cat
that considered everything and anyone a toy--so sad. The rest tested
negative the next two test. We all lived happily for next 3 1/2
years. Until this week Cole stopped eating.
Took him to vet and here is bad part.
Tested positive for feline leukemia again
Bun10 (16-3(
Alt 294(12-130)
Alkp 144(14-111)
Tbil 4.2(0.0-0.9)
Rbc 4.02 (8.54-12.20)
Hct 21.1(30.3-52.3)
Hgb 6.8(9.8-16.2)
Wbc 2.06(2.87-17.02
Neu 0.50(1.48-10.29)
Lym 0.74(0.92-6.88)
Plt 39(151-600)
Rest was in normal range
The vet gave Cole subcutaneous fluids, polyflex/dexasone injection, b
complex injection, and clavamox drops on last wednesday.
But he cant eat and i am syringe feeding AD prscription Food. First
few days was able to get him to take 2 syringes but then threw up and
have not been able to get him past One syringe since then without him
throwing up. He threw up food three times and phlem or hair. He is
very alert, drinking, urinating 2-4 times a day, no BM until one
little turd today
He bathes Self after he eats, shinny healthy looking hair. Took Cole
back today and vet did same as before but We changed to Orbax instead
of clavamox. I was very excited tonight cause he attempted to eat
But only licked gravy of purina Fancy feast., but was start. Later
this evening after syringe feed only 3 ml he threw up what looked
like two meals!! He seems to have a good day, but then has setback
with throwup--- three times he has done that . He has lost a pound
in 6 days!!. So worried cause he cant eat on own and keeps throwing
up.
His brother Ash tested positive again too but his bloodwork is all in
normal range and seems ti be doing fine. His other brother BJ tested
negative and bloodwork all normal range. Vet suggested no treatment
for them. I housed them together and seperated Cole.
I am so worried that we are going to loose Cole because he cant eat
and keeps throwing up syringed food. Also worried about Ash's
positive test for feline leukemia again.
Sorry for lenght but thought you wpuld need all info.
Please advise as soon as possible. Thank you from Cole, his family
and I
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 12:31:54 -0400
From: "Katherine K." To: "[email protected]" Cc: Karen
Harshbarger Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can't eat
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Kitties stop eating for a number of reasons. I can only speak from my
experiences. My FeLV kitty stopped eating and gagged on syringe fed
food
when he had enlarged lymph nodes pressing against his stomach and
esophagus. The lymphoma was the end for him, and I wish I had not
waited so
long to take him in because I feel he suffered on the last day.
My other FELV cat has stopped eating numerous times in his life. Once,
because he had an upper respiratory infection causing general malaise
and
inability to smell his food. Antibiotics and Hills A/D helped with
that.
More recently it was from stomatitis - inflammation of his gums. He
would
run in pain every time he took a bite. Hiding under the bed and
crying.
With all the throwing up I would also be worried about dehydration. If
he's
nauseated, ask your vet about pepcid and/or an appetite stimulant like
mirtazapine. I use a handheld immersion blender to blend up cans of
food
with water. Makes it into a soup and they can lick it up easily. But
sometimes you just have to syringe feed.
I'm sorry, I know exactly how this feels. Just give him lots of love.
On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 11:15 AM, wrote:
I have not hd experience with this, but will keep you and Cole in my
prayers.
---- Karen Harshbarger wrote:
I come to you for suggestions for our Cole. We got Cole as a litter
rescue from our yard
We feed the strays and a little very young mother left them at our
door
We already had some house cats so built a kennel to shelter them
Outside and began To look for homes for them. Then two litter kittens
showed up and old tom. A no kill shelter took the littler kittens.
They
found out one if them tested positive for feline leukemia. We tested
rest
of ours and all but the one female tested positive. So we cleaned out
our
garage, insulated, heated, air conditioned and sheltered them there.
No
matter what we did little Tig was so sick That he died before he was
a yr
old. He was such a sweet little cat that considered everything and
anyone a
toy--so sad. The rest tested negative the next two test. We all lived
happily for next 3 1/2 years. Until this week Cole stopped eating.
Took him to vet and here is bad part.
Tested positive for feline leukemia again
Bun10 (16-3(
Alt 294(12-130)
Alkp 144(14-111)
Tbil 4.2(0.0-0.9)
Rbc 4.02 (8.54-12.20)
Hct 21.1(30.3-52.3)
Hgb 6.8(9.8-16.2)
Wbc 2.06(2.87-17.02
Neu 0.50(1.48-10.29)
Lym 0.74(0.92-6.88)
Plt 39(151-600)
Rest was in normal range
The vet gave Cole subcutaneous fluids, polyflex/dexasone injection,
b
complex injection, and clavamox drops on last wednesday.
But he cant eat and i am syringe feeding AD prscription Food. First
few
days was able to get him to take 2 syringes but then threw up and
have not
been able to get him past One syringe since then without him throwing
up.
He threw up food three times and phlem or hair. He is very alert,
drinking, urinating 2-4 times a day, no BM until one little turd
today
He bathes Self after he eats, shinny healthy looking hair. Took Cole
back today and vet did same as before but We changed to Orbax instead
of
clavamox. I was very excited tonight cause he attempted to eat But
only
licked gravy of purina Fancy feast., but was start. Later this
evening
after syringe feed only 3 ml he threw up what looked like two meals!!
He
seems to have a good day, but then has setback with throwup--- three
times
he has done that . He has lost a pound in 6 days!!. So worried
cause he
cant eat on own and keeps throwing up.
His brother Ash tested positive again too but his bloodwork is all
in
normal range and seems ti be doing fine. His other brother BJ tested
negative and bloodwork all normal range. Vet suggested no treatment
for
them. I housed them together and seperated Cole.
I am so worried that we are going to loose Cole because he cant eat
and
keeps throwing up syringed food. Also worried about Ash's positive
test for feline leukemia again.
Sorry for lenght but thought you wpuld need all info.
Please advise as soon as possible. Thank you from Cole, his family
and I
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 12:48:06 -0400
From: Sherri Godschalk To: Subject: [Felvtalk] My Leuk + kitten and
disgraceful vet
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Thanks for accepting me into the group.
The stray kitten that I adopted tested positive for Leukemia two weeks
ago.
I was so heartbroken to hear this news. And just as heartbroken to get
the
response I did from my vet.
My Bogie, she was always small, playful and a terror, which I loved.
She
also was going in and out of heat quite often and was waiting for a
break in
the action so I could get her spayed. Before I could I noticed she had
slowed down some?stopped knocking things off all of the tables and
shelves
and started sleeping more. I took her to my vet right away. I asked
them
right away to do a FELV test as well as the exam. Before they would
even
look at her really, they gave her rabies and distemper vaccines. Vet
said
she was healthy and just small and that I should spay her soon. I was
making
the appointment at the front desk when Dr told me to come back into
the
room. She said Bogie scored a faint positive for Leukemia and we
should do a
total blood evaluation and send out some blood to a lab in
Indianapolis to
verify. In the same breath she told me to consider putting my girl to
sleep?even without knowing for certain. Shocked me a little about her.
I
said no. The diagnosis was confirmed?positive. And that she was
severely
anemic. RBC 13. They put her on Prednisone and an antibiotic and had
me come
back next week for another blood test. I had them also run the FEVL
again,
just to make sure. Still positive. Her count went up to 17. So not
much
improvement. We set up another appointment for the next week for a
recheck.
The vet called me later the same day and said that the count had
dropped to
15 so it this wasn?t working. So I asked her what the plan was and
what do
we try next. She said there was no next. She would give me pills to
keep
Bogie comfortable but there was nothing else she was WILLING to do.
?There
are plenty of healthy cats out there that need homes? was her advice
to me.
I said ?This is my cat and she deserves a chance? and hung up. I was
furious.
I was able to get into see a vet that I used to take my pets to. I
asked the
woman making the appointment if I could leave the kitten at home for
this
appointment as she was just getting over the prior visit just 2 days
before
and they agreed. I thought that was nice of them. He explained so
thoroughly
what was going on with Bogey. Why things were not working. He
prescribed
Stanzolol 2mg once a day along with the Prednisone once a day. He said
if my
baby doesn?t respond to this in a couple of weeks then we will know
that she
will probably not be able to make red blood cells anymore and the only
thing
left would be transfusions. That he would be willing to try with her.
She
was infected at birth and has lived a year with it, she is one strong
kitty.
I ran home and gave Bogie her first dose.
Hoping and praying that this will help jump start her immune system.
I was led to this site when I Googled the name of the drug and FELV. I
haven?t been able to stop reading these posts and all the information
here.
I was curious, what food you all feed your cats? The vet told me to
keep her
on kitten food but make sure it is high quality. I told the dr that
Bogie
like boiled beef liver and he told me to give her as much as she
wants.
Is there anything else I can do to help Bogie?s immune system become
stronger?
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