I replied incorrectly to your question on this thread. Bit of amateur. I am in Fort Wayne, IN
On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 2:01 PM, ROBERT CHAPEL <bcha...@optonline.net> wrote: > Sherrie.... > > Where are you located?? We have been back and forth SO many times here > about how to get a vet to prescribe Stanazole and here your vet prescribes > it unbidden!!!! At least for a Felv+ cat I'd stay with this one for a > while.... 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My Leuk + kitten and disgraceful vet (Sherri Godschalk) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 02:30:09 -0700 >> From: Karen Harshbarger To: felvtalk Subject: [Felvtalk] Can't eat >> Message-ID: >> <1471426209.22682.yahoomailmob...@web121503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> I come to you for suggestions for our Cole. We got Cole as a litter >> rescue from our yard >> We feed the strays and a little very young mother left them at our door >> We already had some house cats so built a kennel to shelter them Outside >> and began To look for homes for them. Then two litter kittens showed up and >> old tom. A no kill shelter took the littler kittens. They found out one if >> them tested positive for feline leukemia. We tested rest of ours and all >> but the one female tested positive. So we cleaned out our garage, >> insulated, heated, air conditioned and sheltered them there. No matter what >> we did little Tig was so sick That he died before he was a yr old. He was >> such a sweet little cat that considered everything and anyone a toy--so >> sad. The rest tested negative the next two test. We all lived happily for >> next 3 1/2 years. Until this week Cole stopped eating. >> >> Took him to vet and here is bad part. >> Tested positive for feline leukemia again >> Bun10 (16-3( >> Alt 294(12-130) >> Alkp 144(14-111) >> Tbil 4.2(0.0-0.9) >> Rbc 4.02 (8.54-12.20) >> Hct 21.1(30.3-52.3) >> Hgb 6.8(9.8-16.2) >> Wbc 2.06(2.87-17.02 >> Neu 0.50(1.48-10.29) >> Lym 0.74(0.92-6.88) >> Plt 39(151-600) >> Rest was in normal range >> The vet gave Cole subcutaneous fluids, polyflex/dexasone injection, b >> complex injection, and clavamox drops on last wednesday. >> >> But he cant eat and i am syringe feeding AD prscription Food. First few >> days was able to get him to take 2 syringes but then threw up and have not >> been able to get him past One syringe since then without him throwing up. >> He threw up food three times and phlem or hair. He is very alert, >> drinking, urinating 2-4 times a day, no BM until one little turd today >> He bathes Self after he eats, shinny healthy looking hair. Took Cole back >> today and vet did same as before but We changed to Orbax instead of >> clavamox. I was very excited tonight cause he attempted to eat But only >> licked gravy of purina Fancy feast., but was start. Later this evening >> after syringe feed only 3 ml he threw up what looked like two meals!! He >> seems to have a good day, but then has setback with throwup--- three times >> he has done that . He has lost a pound in 6 days!!. So worried cause he >> cant eat on own and keeps throwing up. >> His brother Ash tested positive again too but his bloodwork is all in >> normal range and seems ti be doing fine. His other brother BJ tested >> negative and bloodwork all normal range. Vet suggested no treatment for >> them. I housed them together and seperated Cole. >> >> I am so worried that we are going to loose Cole because he cant eat and >> keeps throwing up syringed food. Also worried about Ash's positive test >> for feline leukemia again. >> Sorry for lenght but thought you wpuld need all info. >> Please advise as soon as possible. Thank you from Cole, his family and I >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 10:15:49 -0500 >> From: To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Cc: Karen Harshbarger Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can't eat >> Message-ID: <20160817111549.P0KPP.6733.root@pamxwww08-z01> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >> I have not hd experience with this, but will keep you and Cole in my >> prayers. >> >> ---- Karen Harshbarger wrote: >> >>> I come to you for suggestions for our Cole. We got Cole as a litter >>> rescue from our yard >>> We feed the strays and a little very young mother left them at our door >>> We already had some house cats so built a kennel to shelter them >>> Outside and began To look for homes for them. Then two litter kittens >>> showed up and old tom. A no kill shelter took the littler kittens. They >>> found out one if them tested positive for feline leukemia. We tested rest >>> of ours and all but the one female tested positive. So we cleaned out our >>> garage, insulated, heated, air conditioned and sheltered them there. No >>> matter what we did little Tig was so sick That he died before he was a yr >>> old. He was such a sweet little cat that considered everything and anyone a >>> toy--so sad. The rest tested negative the next two test. We all lived >>> happily for next 3 1/2 years. Until this week Cole stopped eating. >>> >>> Took him to vet and here is bad part. >>> Tested positive for feline leukemia again >>> Bun10 (16-3( >>> Alt 294(12-130) >>> Alkp 144(14-111) >>> Tbil 4.2(0.0-0.9) >>> Rbc 4.02 (8.54-12.20) >>> Hct 21.1(30.3-52.3) >>> Hgb 6.8(9.8-16.2) >>> Wbc 2.06(2.87-17.02 >>> Neu 0.50(1.48-10.29) >>> Lym 0.74(0.92-6.88) >>> Plt 39(151-600) >>> Rest was in normal range >>> The vet gave Cole subcutaneous fluids, polyflex/dexasone injection, b >>> complex injection, and clavamox drops on last wednesday. >>> >>> But he cant eat and i am syringe feeding AD prscription Food. First few >>> days was able to get him to take 2 syringes but then threw up and have not >>> been able to get him past One syringe since then without him throwing up. >>> He threw up food three times and phlem or hair. He is very alert, >>> drinking, urinating 2-4 times a day, no BM until one little turd today >>> He bathes Self after he eats, shinny healthy looking hair. Took Cole >>> back today and vet did same as before but We changed to Orbax instead of >>> clavamox. I was very excited tonight cause he attempted to eat But only >>> licked gravy of purina Fancy feast., but was start. Later this evening >>> after syringe feed only 3 ml he threw up what looked like two meals!! He >>> seems to have a good day, but then has setback with throwup--- three times >>> he has done that . He has lost a pound in 6 days!!. So worried cause he >>> cant eat on own and keeps throwing up. >>> His brother Ash tested positive again too but his bloodwork is all in >>> normal range and seems ti be doing fine. His other brother BJ tested >>> negative and bloodwork all normal range. Vet suggested no treatment for >>> them. I housed them together and seperated Cole. >>> >>> I am so worried that we are going to loose Cole because he cant eat and >>> keeps throwing up syringed food. Also worried about Ash's positive test >>> for feline leukemia again. >>> Sorry for lenght but thought you wpuld need all info. >>> Please advise as soon as possible. Thank you from Cole, his family and I >>> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 12:31:54 -0400 >> From: "Katherine K." To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Cc: Karen >> Harshbarger Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can't eat >> Message-ID: >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Kitties stop eating for a number of reasons. I can only speak from my >> experiences. My FeLV kitty stopped eating and gagged on syringe fed food >> when he had enlarged lymph nodes pressing against his stomach and >> esophagus. The lymphoma was the end for him, and I wish I had not waited >> so >> long to take him in because I feel he suffered on the last day. >> >> My other FELV cat has stopped eating numerous times in his life. Once, >> because he had an upper respiratory infection causing general malaise and >> inability to smell his food. Antibiotics and Hills A/D helped with that. >> More recently it was from stomatitis - inflammation of his gums. He would >> run in pain every time he took a bite. Hiding under the bed and crying. >> >> With all the throwing up I would also be worried about dehydration. If >> he's >> nauseated, ask your vet about pepcid and/or an appetite stimulant like >> mirtazapine. I use a handheld immersion blender to blend up cans of food >> with water. Makes it into a soup and they can lick it up easily. But >> sometimes you just have to syringe feed. >> >> I'm sorry, I know exactly how this feels. Just give him lots of love. >> >> On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 11:15 AM, wrote: >> >> I have not hd experience with this, but will keep you and Cole in my >>> prayers. >>> >>> ---- Karen Harshbarger wrote: >>> >>>> I come to you for suggestions for our Cole. We got Cole as a litter >>>> >>> rescue from our yard >>> >>>> We feed the strays and a little very young mother left them at our door >>>> We already had some house cats so built a kennel to shelter them >>>> >>> Outside and began To look for homes for them. Then two litter kittens >>> showed up and old tom. A no kill shelter took the littler kittens. They >>> found out one if them tested positive for feline leukemia. We tested rest >>> of ours and all but the one female tested positive. So we cleaned out our >>> garage, insulated, heated, air conditioned and sheltered them there. No >>> matter what we did little Tig was so sick That he died before he was a yr >>> old. He was such a sweet little cat that considered everything and >>> anyone a >>> toy--so sad. The rest tested negative the next two test. We all lived >>> happily for next 3 1/2 years. Until this week Cole stopped eating. >>> >>>> >>>> Took him to vet and here is bad part. >>>> Tested positive for feline leukemia again >>>> Bun10 (16-3( >>>> Alt 294(12-130) >>>> Alkp 144(14-111) >>>> Tbil 4.2(0.0-0.9) >>>> Rbc 4.02 (8.54-12.20) >>>> Hct 21.1(30.3-52.3) >>>> Hgb 6.8(9.8-16.2) >>>> Wbc 2.06(2.87-17.02 >>>> Neu 0.50(1.48-10.29) >>>> Lym 0.74(0.92-6.88) >>>> Plt 39(151-600) >>>> Rest was in normal range >>>> The vet gave Cole subcutaneous fluids, polyflex/dexasone injection, b >>>> >>> complex injection, and clavamox drops on last wednesday. >>> >>>> >>>> But he cant eat and i am syringe feeding AD prscription Food. First few >>>> >>> days was able to get him to take 2 syringes but then threw up and have >>> not >>> been able to get him past One syringe since then without him throwing up. >>> He threw up food three times and phlem or hair. He is very alert, >>> drinking, urinating 2-4 times a day, no BM until one little turd today >>> >>>> He bathes Self after he eats, shinny healthy looking hair. Took Cole >>>> >>> back today and vet did same as before but We changed to Orbax instead of >>> clavamox. I was very excited tonight cause he attempted to eat But only >>> licked gravy of purina Fancy feast., but was start. Later this evening >>> after syringe feed only 3 ml he threw up what looked like two meals!! He >>> seems to have a good day, but then has setback with throwup--- three >>> times >>> he has done that . He has lost a pound in 6 days!!. So worried cause he >>> cant eat on own and keeps throwing up. >>> >>>> >>>> His brother Ash tested positive again too but his bloodwork is all in >>>> >>> normal range and seems ti be doing fine. His other brother BJ tested >>> negative and bloodwork all normal range. Vet suggested no treatment for >>> them. I housed them together and seperated Cole. >>> >>>> >>>> I am so worried that we are going to loose Cole because he cant eat and >>>> >>> keeps throwing up syringed food. Also worried about Ash's positive >>> test for feline leukemia again. >>> >>>> Sorry for lenght but thought you wpuld need all info. >>>> Please advise as soon as possible. Thank you from Cole, his family and >>>> I >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 12:48:06 -0400 >> From: Sherri Godschalk To: Subject: [Felvtalk] My Leuk + kitten and >> disgraceful vet >> Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Thanks for accepting me into the group. >> >> The stray kitten that I adopted tested positive for Leukemia two weeks >> ago. >> I was so heartbroken to hear this news. And just as heartbroken to get the >> response I did from my vet. >> >> My Bogie, she was always small, playful and a terror, which I loved. She >> also was going in and out of heat quite often and was waiting for a break >> in >> the action so I could get her spayed. Before I could I noticed she had >> slowed down some?stopped knocking things off all of the tables and shelves >> and started sleeping more. I took her to my vet right away. I asked them >> right away to do a FELV test as well as the exam. Before they would even >> look at her really, they gave her rabies and distemper vaccines. Vet said >> she was healthy and just small and that I should spay her soon. I was >> making >> the appointment at the front desk when Dr told me to come back into the >> room. She said Bogie scored a faint positive for Leukemia and we should >> do a >> total blood evaluation and send out some blood to a lab in Indianapolis to >> verify. In the same breath she told me to consider putting my girl to >> sleep?even without knowing for certain. Shocked me a little about her. I >> said no. The diagnosis was confirmed?positive. And that she was severely >> anemic. RBC 13. They put her on Prednisone and an antibiotic and had me >> come >> back next week for another blood test. I had them also run the FEVL again, >> just to make sure. Still positive. Her count went up to 17. So not much >> improvement. We set up another appointment for the next week for a >> recheck. >> The vet called me later the same day and said that the count had dropped >> to >> 15 so it this wasn?t working. So I asked her what the plan was and what do >> we try next. She said there was no next. She would give me pills to keep >> Bogie comfortable but there was nothing else she was WILLING to do. ?There >> are plenty of healthy cats out there that need homes? was her advice to >> me. >> I said ?This is my cat and she deserves a chance? and hung up. I was >> furious. >> I was able to get into see a vet that I used to take my pets to. I asked >> the >> woman making the appointment if I could leave the kitten at home for this >> appointment as she was just getting over the prior visit just 2 days >> before >> and they agreed. I thought that was nice of them. He explained so >> thoroughly >> what was going on with Bogey. Why things were not working. He prescribed >> Stanzolol 2mg once a day along with the Prednisone once a day. He said if >> my >> baby doesn?t respond to this in a couple of weeks then we will know that >> she >> will probably not be able to make red blood cells anymore and the only >> thing >> left would be transfusions. That he would be willing to try with her. She >> was infected at birth and has lived a year with it, she is one strong >> kitty. >> >> I ran home and gave Bogie her first dose. >> >> Hoping and praying that this will help jump start her immune system. >> >> I was led to this site when I Googled the name of the drug and FELV. I >> haven?t been able to stop reading these posts and all the information >> here. >> I was curious, what food you all feed your cats? The vet told me to keep >> her >> on kitten food but make sure it is high quality. I told the dr that Bogie >> like boiled beef liver and he told me to give her as much as she wants. >> >> Is there anything else I can do to help Bogie?s immune system become >> stronger? >> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> ------------------------------ >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 28, Issue 9 >> *************************************** >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >
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