Here is hope for continued good results. ---- Amani Oakley <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Sherri > > Yes, I do see something positive. As I mentioned in my previous email, the > reticulocyte count ("retic") is a count showing immature red cells. Normally, > red cells are not pushed out of the bone marrow into the general circulation > of the blood, until they are mature, though a small percentage may be in the > bloodstream at all times. The presence of an elevated number of reticulocytes > says to me that the bone marrow is starting to create new red cells and > because the body is short of red cells (anemic), the bone marrow is pushing > out more of the red cells in their immature form, into the circulation. This > is the body trying to correct the anemia. > > You definitely need the previous results though, to identify if you are > moving in the right direction on the other parameters. > > Amani > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Sherri Godschalk > Sent: August-26-16 5:34 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bogie's First 5 days on Stanozolol > > Amani, > Thanks for all the valuable information. It actually calms me. > He has a lab in house and these were the results from this week. (I don't > have any from the prior visits to the other vet, but the new vet does) > RBC 2.43 M/ul 6.65-12.2 LOW > HCT 15.3 % 30.3-52.3 LOW > HGB 5.3 g/dL 9.8-16.2 LOW > MCV 62.6 fl 35.9-53.1 HIGH > MCH 21.8 pg 11.8-17.3 HIGH > RETIC 61.5 K/ul 3.0-50.0 HIGH > LYM 7.75 K/uL 0.92-6.88 HIGH > MONO 1.58 K/uL 0.05-0.67 HIGH > EOS 0.10 K/uL 0.17-1.57 LOW > BASO 0.00 K/uL 0.01-.26 LOW > PLT 50 K/uL 151-600 LOW > I haven't got the chance to research what all of this means. There were > several other levels on this sheet that were all within range. Do you see > ANYTHING positive in these results? The first 6 look very bad to me. > Thanks again for writing. > > From: Felvtalk > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > on behalf of Amani Oakley > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > Reply-To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > Date: Friday, August 26, 2016 at 3:29 PM > To: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bogie's First 5 days on Stanozolol > > Sherri > > Don't be disappointed. The key is that the haematocrit is starting to rise > and is not going down any further. Remember how few days the drug has had to > work. It is literally having to go into bone marrow and turn back on > progenitor cells in the bone marrow that have been infiltrated by the FeLV > virus, and are therefore destroyed or inactive. Also, did he do a > reticulocyte count? That should hopefully also start going up because those > are one of the immature forms of the red cells. Another is nucleated red > blood cells. At maturity, the red cells lose the nucleus (except in birds and > maybe reptiles). However, the instrument used to count the red cells cannot > differentiate a nucleated red cell from a white cell (which will have a > nucleus) so unless there is a manual count done, the automated instrument > results may count any nucleated red cells as white cells. This isn't too > critical, but it will not show you whether any of these immature red cell > forms are developing. > > Also, while the haematocrit is important, you should also look at the > platelet count (which, I remember correctly, was low for Bogie) and the white > cell counts. I found that the Winstrol started improving all the different > cell lines, though admittedly, it appeared that the improvement started with > the red cells. > > I am not sure I agree with your vet taking Bogie off the Winstrol though, > because it is an anabolic steroid and is literally rebuilding bone, muscle, > etc. With a debilitated cat, I think you've got to keep them on for a long > while. However, your vet has been helpful and more progressive than most, so > . . . > > Amani > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Sherri Godschalk > Sent: August-26-16 7:03 AM > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bogie's First 5 days on Stanozolol > > Thanks Ardy. > We had Bogeys first blood test after 7 days and her HCT was only still at > 15.4. Slight increase. She is pretty functional at this level. Still sleeping > a lot. But eats, goes up and down stairs, bats at the dogs. The vet didn't > seem surprised that it hadn't gone up more. It hadn't gone down. Considers > her "stable". He doesn't want to see her for a month to test again. He wants > her to be off of the Stanozolol for one week starting next Wed and then put > her back on it the following week for two more. > > I was a bit disappointed that her blood results weren't better although I > could tell just with her energy level that she hadn't improved much. > Hopefully she just needs more time on it for it to take hold. I wish there > was something more that I could do. I feel so helpless. > > Thanks for writing, > > From: Felvtalk > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > on behalf of Ardy Robertson > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > Reply-To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > Date: Friday, August 26, 2016 at 12:07 AM > To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bogie's First 5 days on Stanozolol > > Best wishes to you Sherri and to Bogie!! I do believe this drug combo > (Stanozolol and Prednisone) helped my Tigger also, it's just that I started > him on it too late. Tigger's bloodwork showed amazing improvement but I > believe his diagnosis was very late since he had tested negative as a kitten, > and at age 5 years they told me he had it since kittenhood but must have been > shedding the virus when tested. I sincerely hope Bogie can benefit from this > treatment since she is younger at her diagnosis. Also very happy that you > have a cooperating vet! > > Ardy > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Amani Oakley > Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 9:30 PM > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bogie's First 5 days on Stanozolol > > Hi Sherri > > I am happy to hear of your experience so far, but like you, I held my breath > for a very long time with Zander. > > Please keep us all updated. > > Amani > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Sherri Godschalk > Sent: August-21-16 10:36 PM > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: [Felvtalk] Bogie's First 5 days on Stanozolol > > I wanted to update everyone here about how this medication is affecting the > health of my FELV positive 1 year old kitten. > > Bogie got her diagnosis just under 3 weeks ago. The first vet I saw tried > Prednisone and an antibiotic for 2 weeks and it did nothing for here severe > anemia. (Her only symptom) I was told at that time that there was nothing > that could help her and to just keep her comfortable as she dies. > > Changed vets. > > New vet...Was prescribed 2mg of Stanozolol once a day along with the Pred > once a day. This morning, Bogie got her 5th dose of Stanozolol. She appears > to be less anemic. Has more energy, sleeping less and more interested in > playing and is eating and drinking well enough on her own. Her gums are > slightly more pink as well. There hasn't been any side effects that I have > seen with this combination. Except I have to pill her twice a day but she is > getting used to that a little bit. > > I don't want to speak to soon, but I believe just from how she is acting, > that this drug is helping my kitten make some red blood cells. She goes in > this week for a blood test so I will know if it is actually doing that . > Today is the happiest day we have had in the house in over a month. > > I will reply to this thread to keep the group posted. > > Wish us luck! > > Best. > Sherri > _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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