That is what I said, they have a resonable chance of wining the case or they 
would not pursue it.  There is something that tells them it is worthwhile.  
They will not sue if there is not a reasonable expectation of winning


---- Amani Oakley <[email protected]> wrote: 
> I would be happy to give an inside look at the life of a lawyer, since few 
> people have any idea what we do or how we do it.
> 
> I feel the need to explain that, first, it is not true that every medication 
> is the basis of a lawsuit. Second,  no lawyer would ever bring such 
> litigation forward without some very very solid evidence of problems with the 
> medicine because - and I don’t think you are seeing this - IT IS THE LAWYER 
> WHO HAS TO PAY HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF HIS/HER OWN MONEY to fund the 
> litigation. Would YOU bet $100,000 or $200,000 or $500,000 of your own money 
> (NOT counting thousands and thousands of hours of unpaid work), if you 
> weren’t convinced there was sufficient and strong enough evidence to win a 
> case? These cases run for a minimum of 5-7 years, so would you pour in hours 
> and hours of unpaid time, PLUS hundreds of thousands of dollars of your own 
> money, on something with no basis in fact???
> 
> I seriously doubt it. I also don’t know of any other profession where you are 
> expected to put such significant sums of your own money and your own unpaid 
> time on the line, for the sake of a client's case, and to run the case for 
> years and years - unpaid - for the chance to perhaps win in court. The court 
> battle is always tilted in favour of the big guys (corporate entities, 
> doctors' professional protection associations, insurance companies). They 
> have unlimited resources, teams of lawyers, etc., etc. My firm is just me and 
> my husband.
> 
> In medical malpractice actions in Canada, I can tell you that the statistics 
> are that for every 10 medical malpractice actions that actually make it into 
> the court room (many are dismissed on technicalities), NINE are decided in 
> favour of the doctors. Moreover, in Canada, the doctors don’t pay ANYTHING 
> for their defence - it is covered by government rebates to the physicians for 
> 85% of their insurance premiums. And the news is even worse than that. For 
> the one in ten cases that are actually won by an injured patient, the doctor 
> will invariably appeal and most of the cases where a patient wins, are 
> reversed on appeal anyway, so the patient who is successful in trial almost 
> always loses at appeal.
> 
> ALL OF THAT MONEY, to fund the litigation, hire the necessary experts, bring 
> the required motions to court, etc., is underwritten by the medical 
> malpractice lawyer.
> 
> Your enemy is NOT the trial lawyer. You have been fed a bill of goods by 
> insurance companies. Look into it in any detail and you will see what I mean.
> 
> Now, may I please ask everyone to please leave my current profession out of 
> this. I am happy to share my information and experience with everyone, and 
> believe I have been quite generous in doing so. What started all this was a 
> suggestion that the reason my vets give me Winstrol is because they are 
> scared of me as a lawyer. I do not believe that to be true, and you should 
> ask yourself if you are paying attention to my suggestions because I am a 
> lawyer. Since I am pretty sure that is not the reason, then I would ask that 
> you recognize that my vets also have been good enough to listen to me because 
> I am quite up-to-speed on science and medicine, and can interpret blood work 
> like nobody's business. Additionally, I think Margo's observation is bang on: 
> if vets were afraid I would sue them, they would never ever try something 
> "off-label" or experimental with me. As Margo suggested, anyone afraid of 
> litigation will do everything "by the book". Moreover, as I have pointed out, 
> I have developed my relationship with my vets for literally decades, and well 
> before I became a lawyer. I frankly think they are far more impressed with my 
> ability to speak with them at the same level when it comes to medical issues, 
> then they are scared of me turning around and suing them. I do not have a 
> relationship of fear with my vets.
> 
> Amani
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: October-06-16 10:01 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: Amani Oakley
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 30, Issue 10
> 
> Just klook at the ads on tv.  every medication that comes on the market is 
> now being sued.  Someone asked me why?  Lawyers who do these things smell a 
> handsome profit and snese that there is abasis for these suits
> 
> 
> ---- Amani Oakley <[email protected]> wrote: 
> > You are correct Margo. No vet would consider experimenting if he thought 
> > his client might blame him later for things going wrong. But again, that 
> > presumes that a whole lot of people seriously misunderstand the realities 
> > of litigation and have bought the insurance companies' spin that there are 
> > all these crazy people who will sue at the drop of a hat. Sadly, that is 
> > probably true.
> > 
> > Amani
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
> > Of Margo
> > Sent: October-05-16 6:21 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 30, Issue 10
> > 
> > 
> > Funny, my thought was that a Vet would be LESS likely to try anything even 
> > slightly out of the norm with a potentially litigious client. That they 
> > would go strictly "by the book" in order to be able to defend what they 
> > did, should here be a problem.
> > 
> > But then, there are Vets and there are VETS. "My" Vet has her last day 
> > at the practice Friday for maternity leave, and won't be back until 
> > January. I have no idea what I'll do. She says she'll be available by 
> > phone and email, but I have my doubts. Although I DO think she'll be 
> > bored ;)
> > 
> > Margo
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > >From: ROBERT CHAPEL <[email protected]>
> > >Sent: Oct 4, 2016 9:03 PM
> > >To: [email protected]
> > >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 30, Issue 10
> > >
> > >Amani...
> > >I don't know how things work in Canada but I KNOW that were I a 
> > >lawyer I would get more cooperation from my vet....  As Vets begin to 
> > >charge more and more and large corporations begin to buy up small 
> > >practices here in the states the model is now moving toward the 
> > >downside of human medicine.... discrete scheduling time periods to 
> > >maximize profits...
> > >little time to " discuss" options and an aversion to moving on to 
> > >topics that could cause spending extra time.....  As prices rise so 
> > >do owner resentments at not being " cared about" or listened to just 
> > >as in human medicine..... and that( at least in the US) is when 
> > >lawsuits are most likely to be filed.... Most of us can forgive a vet 
> > >making a mistake when we feel he/she has put real thought and concern 
> > >into a Tx plan but putting our pets at risk because an alteration in 
> > >plan causes him to have to step outside his comfort zone( and spend 
> > >some extra time
> > >thinking) or simply doesn't appear to care.. That doesn't fly when we 
> > >are paying Hundreds of dollars to save our precious pets..
> > >Malpractice lawyer pet owners ( or patients in human medicine) are 
> > >likely surreptitiously treated with great care when moving through 
> > >waters fraught with potential for terminal errors..... and likely get 
> > >a bit more cooperation from their vets...   I am glad for your cats 
> > >that you ARE in the profession that you now are...
> > >So... it is , in my opinion, both good fortune and a dose of 
> > >deferential caution that gets you the kind of cooperation you get 
> > >from your vet????   Yeah.... I'm pretty jaded at this point  : ) That 
> > >is why I HAD to retire a bit early....
> > >
> > >  
> 
> 
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