I suggest getting her brother tested ASAP and subsequently vaccinated against FeLV if he is negative.
On Feb 25, 2017 9:57 AM, "Sandy" <swacht1...@comcast.net> wrote: > this is from previous posts - get your kitty cat to a vet - hopefully - > who will not be afraid to "go outside" the box. > > Winstrol – 1 mg twice a day > > > > Doxycycline – 1/5 to ¼ tablet (100 mg) twice a day > > > > Prednisolone – ½ 5 mg tablet, twice a day > > > > > > If there are problems with the intestines (vomiting, constipation, slow > moving stools, stools of large diameters, all of which might be indicative > of the effect of the virus on the intestines) you can try adding ¼ tablet > of apometocloprimide. > > > > If the haematocrit level is REALLY REALLY low – like below 5-8, you might > consider starting the Winstrol at 2 mg twice a day for a week, to try and > kickstart things quickly, but given that there is going to be a likely > increase in liver enzymes with the use of Winstrol, recognize that this > might also increase the liver enzymes faster. > > > > Hope this helps! Amani > > > > *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf > Of *gary > *Sent:* January-27-17 4:04 PM > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV > > Amani, > > Could you please give the dosages used for Zander's Protocol? I know they > must have been previously given, but I cannot seem to find them. > > Thanks, Gary > > On 9/16/2016 8:52 AM, Amani Oakley wrote: > > Hi Sherri > > > > I hope you got some good news today. However, as you know, my experience > is that the Winstrol needs to be used long term before the red cells are > back into the normal range. I continue to recommend use of the Doxycyline > to interfere with viral RNA synthesis. The Winstrol does not attack the > virus, though I believe it makes the cat stronger overall and able to fight > back. But at the outset of the treatment regime, I believe you must have > the Doxycycline on board to try and reduce the viral load, or at least, > keep it from rising. > > > > Amani > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > Hi Liz > > > > The only thing that works to turn back on red cell production is Winstrol > (Stanazolol). It is an ANABOLIC steroid (as opposed to most steroids we are > used to getting, like prednisone, which is a corticosteroid. > > > > Anabolic steroids are ones which build muscle, tissue, etc. > > > > Adding Winstrol to the combination of medication you have your cat on > right now, would be the best thing to do. The Doxycycline acts to slow down > or inhibit the reproduction of the FeLV virus by interfering the RNA > duplication. The prednisone is helpful in keeping inflammation at bay, but > neither of these helps to increase the red cells. The Winstrol acts > directly and very quickly on the bone marrow and seems to get red cells > generated again, quite promptly. At least it did for my Zander, and I have > been contacted directly by several people from this group, who have > reported to me that they also saw almost immediate (within 3 days) evidence > of their cats’ gums/ears/pads pinkening up. > > > > The problem is that Winstrol is a controversial drug because it is also > what professional athletes use to get bigger, stronger and faster. Quite > unfortunately (since none of our cats are entering the Olympics) that > association with doping scandals has cast a shadow on its use in both > animal and people medicine. In human medicine, it is the only drug found to > be effective in treating hereditary angioedema and anemia. > > > > Here is a blurb I found about it: > > > > Winstrol was first invented in 1959. Soon after that, the UK based > Winthrop Laboratories created a prescription medicine from it. Later, in > 1961, Winthrop’s patent was bought by the US based Sterling that started > manufacturing and selling the drug in the American markets. > > In the beginning, Winstrol was used for a variety of medical reasons. But > later, by the 1970s, the FDA had restricted its use to only promoting > growth and treating osteoporosis. In the 1980s, there was a termination of > the manufacture of anabolic steroids in the American market. But Winstrol > was among those steroids which not only survived, but thrived in the 1980s > and 1990s. During this period, its use was reinforced as a cure for anemia > – as it had the power to boost red blood cell count, and was used as a > treatment for facial swelling or angioedema. > > When the manufacture of Winstrol was finally discontinued, Ovation > Pharmaceuticals bought the rights to manufacture it, in 2003. However, > Ovation Pharmaceuticals have ceased their operations now, so the Winstrol > products available today in the American markets are only generic and not > pharmaceutical grade. Outside the USA, however, several large brands still > manufacture and sell Winstrol. > > Genuine Stanozolol can be distinguished in water suspensions because it > separates from the liquid into micrometer particles. These particles will > fall to the bottom if the container is not disturbed for a few hours. The > crystals have a milky white color. > > Winstrol can not only be used for humans, but it has veterinary uses as > well. Weakened or injured animals can be treated with Winstrol in order to > promote red blood cell count, strengthen bones, stimulate appetite, and > enhance muscle growth. It has also reportedly been used to dope horses in > US horse races. > > If your vet is willing to try this, he/she will need to order it from a > compounding pharmacy. > > > > The dose should be 1 mg 2 times a day for a cat. If your cat is in poor > shape and needs an immediate boost, start him on 2 mg x 2 times a day for a > week or so, and then drop down to the lower dose. > > > > Your vet will undoubtedly say that Winstrol is known to cause liver damage. > > > > The first answer to this is, so what? FeLV will almost invariably result > in the premature death of cats. The vets have nothing which is directly > effective to fight FeLV. Things like Interferon may or may not assist but > such a treatment is again a side treatment where you are hoping to boost > your cat’s immune system, rather than a direct attack on the virus. It is > also quite indirect in that IF the interferon helps, it will be more long > term, and only if it manages to boost the immune system enough to permit > your cat’s system to try and fight the virus, and when/if the virus is > inhibited enough, then MAYBE (if the virus hasn’t already destroyed all the > progenitor cells in the bone marrow) will red cell production begin to > climb again. Winstrol is the only medication that I know of, (and believe > me, I have looked!) that seems to work by turning back on those progenitor > cells or possibly promoting the growth of new ones since it also works to > enhance the production of bone cells (effective against osteoporosis). > > > > The second answer, regarding the liver damage, is that the only > information about this is quite suspect, coming out of a very poorly > designed research study where the cats in the study were given doses found > effective on HUSKY SLED DOGS for lord’s sake! The cats were given a LOADING > DOSE via intravenous injection, of 25 mg – more than 10 times the > recommended daily dose for cats. That’s the only study which has found this > supposed link between Winstrol and liver damage. And even in that study, > with those remarkably ridiculous doses, the cats in that study only had > elevated liver enzymes (no tumours, etc.) and the liver enzymes dropped > back to normal levels when the Winstrol was discontinued. This is > consistent with my experience as well. I refused to stop the Winstrol for > my cat, when the enzymes went up, because he was going to die with the low > red cell count he had. I kept him on Winstrol for around 10 months, before > the red cells were in a normal range. During that ten month period, I would > wean him down a few times, but ALWAYS the red cells would immediately drop > again, so it was more than clear that it was the Winstrol making the > numbers rise. So, in the end, he had Winstrol pretty much for the duration > of 10 months and his liver enzymes went right back to normal again, once I > discontinued the Winstrol – NO lasting damage. This was also my experience > with a second cat with a nasal sarcoma, and where I used the Winstrol to > keep her appetite up and reduce the swelling (she was 16). The enzymes went > quite high at the outset of my use of Winstrol, but went back to normal > when I weaned her off for a bit and then again when I ultimately took her > off the Winstrol. > > > > Get the Winstrol if you can, and use it in combination with the prednisone > (which I am told also helps to protect the liver when the Winstrol is used) > and Doxycycline. > > > > Amani > > > > *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf > Of *Liz McCarty > *Sent:* September-15-16 1:40 PM > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > *Subject:* [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV > > Hi everyone, > > Looking for support, suggestions, and information. I've never had a cat > with FeLV. We took our 1 year old, Hodor, to the vet because he seemed > lethargic and in his stool there was a piece of floss that was red. At the > vet things escalated and they told us he was severely anemic and would need > a transfusion that day. I took off work and rushed him to a specialist. The > vet there told us she would run an FeLV test before doing anything in case > we wanted to avoid the extra tests and procedures. She told us he was FeLV > positive and persistently talked to me and my fiance about euthanizing him > which was out of the question for us. I took him to the vet thinking it was > going to be minor and then she's talking to me about killing him! We went > forward with the blood transfusion. It's been almost 3 weeks now. They had > him on doxycycline in case there was a bacterial cause, and prednisone. > Last week he started interferon... Does anyone have experience with that > and know if it was effective? I also started him on Pet Tinic. Any other > suggestions? Any insight into whether you think he will be able to pull > through? He doesn't have cancer, they ran the tests but don't know if it's > in the bone marrow. I'm scared. We have another one year old, unrelated, > and they are best friends. It breaks my heart to think they might be > separated. She's not FeLV positive. > > Additionally I have set up a go fund me to help with the costs we > incurred, and I want to donate half to FeLV research if anyone is > interested. > http://www.gofundme.com/2mzdpgk > > Mainly looking for support and advice. Thank you in advance. > > Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438 > > ------------------------------ > *From: *dlg...@windstream.net > *To: *"Molly Mou" <mollymou...@yahoo.com>, felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > *Sent: *Saturday, February 25, 2017 9:15:50 AM > *Subject: *Re: [Felvtalk] FeLv Positive cat > > I haave had no problems with this, all I can offer is prayer. > > ---- Molly Mou <mollymou...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > I am new to the list. Three weeks ago my 5-year old Miakitty was > diagnosed with FeLv. The ELISA test showed slightly + for FeLv. Itook her > to the vet’s initially because her lymph nodes were raging – all ofthem > premandibular, prescapular, inguinal all the way to the popliteals > wereenlarged. A needle aspirate of the lymph nodes result was > hyperplasia,no lymphosarcoma. White blood cell count was normal, but she > was anemic, butnot to the point of needing a transfusion.I was devastated > and stunned at this diagnosis because she(the whole litter) was tested as > kittens for FIV and FeLv and were negative. Myvet said the disease can stay > in the bone marrow. I have her brother who isasymptomatic – confusing. I > haven’t had him tested yet for FeLv yet.My vet recommended treatment with > Immunoregulin. Theprotocol per Plumb’s is an IV injection twice weekly for > two weeks, then 1injection once weekly for 21 weeks. She is now in her 4th > week oftreatment. For the first two weeks, her lymph nodes decreased and > becamesofter. But after the 2nd week her lymph nodes are raging > againdespite the treatments. She is eating well, but not very active. Has > anyone had experience with this treatment or any othertreatment(s) or > advice to help my little girl? Thanks in advance, Pat Peterson > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > >
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