Thank you, I appreciate this. 

Marlene 

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> On Jun 8, 2018, at 3:48 PM, Amani Oakley <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> In my world, my perspective is usually, it can’t hurt. I would at least get 
> her on the Doxycycline. It might help with the other problems you are having, 
> or not, but I would probably give it a try if it were me. The only thing to 
> watch with the Doxycycline is that the hard tablets have been known to get 
> stuck in a cat’s throat and cause burning of the eosophagus. I have never had 
> that problem but I have heard others speak of it. If that is a concern and 
> all you can get are hard tablets, rub them in butter before giving them and 
> ensure that the cat is given some yummy canned food afterwards to ensure that 
> the pill goes down properly. Others have mentioned you can get Doxycycline in 
> liquid form as well. I suspect that the problem has been blown out of 
> proportion to the amount of time it actually occurs, and just like what 
> happened with Winstrol and the link between it and liver damage, it has 
> improperly curtailed the use of Doxycycline. I have found Doxycycline (a 
> tetracycline) to have a truly remarkable range of effectiveness, so with any 
> luck, it may address whatever is causing the other nose and eye infections.
>  
> Amani
>  
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Marlene Snowman
> Sent: June-08-18 2:39 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Quentin
>  
> Thank you Amani for all of this. My little girl, Bear has never gotten rid of 
> a nose infection. And about 1.5 months ago developed an eye and more extreme 
> nose infection. The vet prescribed an antibiotic for 7 days and then every 
> week thereafter 2 to 3 days of this same oral antibiotic. 
>  
> The nose infection, clears for a few days and then starts back. She has no 
> issue with appetite or anything else. Unfortunately the vet has never been 
> able to really examine her as she is so angry and wild with other people. 
>  
> That being said, I’m not sure if things are just the way she has always been, 
> with this chronic nose infection that she has never cleared or something else 
> further developing. Either way, thus antibiotic isn’t working on eliminating 
> this issue. And to your point and your experience with Zander, maybe now is 
> the time for me to get this protocol going before something further or a 
> worsening. 
>  
> Thoughts ?
> M
>  
>  
>  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 8, 2018, at 3:04 PM, Amani Oakley <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Marlene
>  
> I am not sure about a 3 year old. I think if he/she is stable and having no 
> problems, I wouldn’t be too concerned.
>  
> I would be more worried about a kitten, since they have very little reserves. 
> Moreover, generally speaking, FeLV is known to be more problematic for 
> kittens, then it is for older cats. As I have mentioned in other posts, when 
> my cat Zander was diagnosed with FeLV (and he too was a very sickly little 
> kitten when we first got him – worms, leaking nose, runny diarrhea and almost 
> blind with gunk in both eyes), he lived in our house with at least 8 other 
> cats for more than 7 years and no one else got it.
>  
> With Zander, we had an initial episode in June where he got very sick, and 
> his blood counts were terrible, and then he seemed to recover. Getting no 
> advice otherwise from the vets, other than the fact that he was FeLV 
> positive, we were relieved and happy that he seemed to be okay. He wasn’t 
> treated with anything after the first bout of illness. Then it came back with 
> a vengeance in September (with haematocrit at FIVE compared to a normal of 25 
> to 45), and from September and from September to December, we fought to keep 
> him alive, with blood transfusions and trying every option out there – LTCI, 
> interferon, etc. He was also receiving Doxycycline and prednisone at that 
> time. It wasn’t until I added the Winstrol at the end of December, did we get 
> a startling and amazing turn-around, with his red cells and haematocrit 
> finally beginning to climb slowly but steadily out of the terribly low 
> numbers we had been trying to fight with the blood transfusions.
>  
> I always said that if I had to do it again, I would have started treating 
> Zander after that first episode in June, and before he became critically ill, 
> and almost died in September. My research has shown that Doxycycline has the 
> ability to inhibit viral replication and/or the building of the viral coat. I 
> would therefore feel that there is something which may be gained in treating 
> with Doxycycline for a course of treatment, in the hopes that if the virus is 
> there, it is stymied in its ability to reproduce. The problem is that there 
> is really no way to know if the Doxycycline did anything, if the cat doesn’t 
> go on to have a frank FeLV infection. It could obviously also be that the cat 
> would never have gone on to have a frank FeLV infection. However, in my mind 
> anyway, I think it would be a reasonable approach to treat with Doxycycline 
> in the absence of symptoms, after a FeLV diagnosis. I recommend an extended 
> treatment course of 6 weeks, because this is not a bacterial infection, and 
> what is being hoped for here is to stymie the reproduction and spreading of a 
> virus.
>  
> I also mentioned recently on this chatline, that I found that the Doxycycline 
> is also one of the few antibiotics which is effective against the immature 
> phase of round worms. I had no idea that there was anything to done for round 
> worms except the deworming that is regularly done. I had done that with a 
> group of cats (young siblings) I had rescued from the road, and then A YEAR 
> later, one of the three vomited up a round worm. I couldn’t figure out what 
> had happened. One of the other siblings had gotten pregnant (yes – I am 
> totally embarrassed – long story but not acceptable) and HER KITTENS had a 
> whole lot of very strange symptoms. I finally figured out that the life cycle 
> of round worms has the immature stage going through bodily tissues including 
> the eyes, and these kittens had all kinds of eye problems which ONLY 
> responded to oral doxycycline – ie – nothing topical and no other 
> antibiotics. Anyway, I’ll save you all my pondering and research on this, and 
> my ultimate conclusion that deworming should probably be accompanied by oral 
> doxycycline, since the immature roundworm forms are not affected by the 
> medication used to deworm the cats, and then cycle through and become adults 
> (after invading the lungs and heavy coughing allows the immatures to be 
> swallowed and end up in the intestines where they mature). Thus, a course of 
> Doxycycline may also deal with this other issue at the same time.
>  
> Whew.
>  
> Amani
>  
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Marlene Snowman
> Sent: June-08-18 12:41 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Quentin
>  
> Amani, in reading this I now realize that I may not be doing enough for my 3 
> year old. I had understood that this protocol was for when signs/symptoms 
> showed. I didn’t realize otherwise. From reading your post to JoAnne I should 
> also be getting my vet to prescribe now the doxy ? My cat is 6.2 lbs. should 
> I be combining that with some other parts of this protocol now and only going 
> to the winstrol at a later date?
>  
> Any advice is appreciated....
>  
> Marlene 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 8, 2018, at 1:21 PM, Amani Oakley <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi JoAnne
>  
> If this was my kitten, I would not want to just wait it out to see what might 
> transpire. I did that with my kitten, and it was a mistake.
>  
> My suggestion is that you start him on a long course (6 weeks) of 
> Doxycycline. I don’t know the dosing for such a small kitten. My guess would 
> be 25 mg daily. I don’t think you need to start right away – give him some 
> time to eat, bulk, recover from the other things like worms, etc.
>  
> You might also want to start now finding out if your vet will agree to 
> prescribe Winstrol if worst comes to worst. Not all vets have heard of 
> Winstrol (Stanazalol) or are willing to obtain it. The combination I 
> recommend, and had a very good response from, is:
>  
> Winstrol – 1 mg twice a day
>  
> Doxycycline – 1/5 to ¼ tablet (100 mg) twice a day
>  
> Prednisolone – ½ 5 mg tablet, twice a day
>  
>  
> Amani
>  
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> JoAnne Kraun
> Sent: June-07-18 8:22 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Quentin
>  
> I recently adopted a kitten from a rehoming site online.  He was born on 
> March 20, he was a little over 8 weeks when I got him.  He was covered in 
> fleas so I took him straight to the vet.  They said he also had tapeworms.  
> He was treated for fleas and tapeworms and received his first series of 
> vaccines.  His weight was 2.1 lbs.  They tested him for FIV and FeLV.  About 
> 10 minutes after I got home, they called me and told me he tested positive 
> for FeLV, a faint positive.  I have been doing a lot of research and I have 
> been told that a faint positive could just mean that the disease is starting 
> and he will have a normal positive next time he is tested, and also that a 
> faint positive is the same as a regular positive. He is not sick now.  He 
> eats a lot.  I have been feeding him Orijen dry food and both Weruva and 
> Wellness Core canned food.  He seems to be gaining weight.  He looks good and 
> he is a very active and vocal kitten.  He is very affectionate and loves my 
> Cavalier Spaniel, who he likes to snuggle with after he wears himself at 
> night.
>  
> Because he was so young when he was diagnosed, everything I have read online 
> indicates that he will probably only live for a few months to a year before 
> he starts to get sick.  I have never had a cat with this disease.   
> Everything I find online indicates that most kittens will not be able to  
> clear the virus and will live 2-3 years if we are lucky.
>  
> I am wondering if there are some supplements I can get him started on now, 
> before he starts to get sick.  Regardless of how long I have him, he will be 
> loved and cared for.  He is already very spoiled.   I just can't even picture 
> this little guy being sick.  He is such a good little cat.  I call him Q.  
>  
> I just lost my 17 year old Himalayan Persian to cancer a few months ago.  I 
> haven't had a kitten for 17 years.  I have 3 dogs and thought that an adult 
> cat may be too stressed around my big dogs.  The Cavalier is fine, but I also 
> have 2 Akitas.  My other cat was fine with the Akitas.  She was not afraid of 
> them at all.  Q does not seem to be afraid of them, either, and he lets them 
> give him kisses.  I do separate Q from the Akitas when I am not around 
> because one of the is very playful and I am afraid that she would try to play 
> with Q.  The Akitas are over 100 lbs so he could get hurt so easily.  Q seems 
> to be a very laid back kitten, he does not scare easily and purrs whenever he 
> is around us.    
>  
> What can I expect?  Will he start getting sick in a few months?  Do they just 
> quit eating or what happens?   I would like to think that Q will be one of 
> the lucky ones that lives for over 10 years, but I know I need to be 
> realistic.  I just want him to have the best quality of life that he can have 
> with us.
>  
>  
>  
> JoAnne
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